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Old 03-25-2013, 09:00 PM   #1
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Have acrylic shower pan. Instructions say to set in 1/2 inch bed of mortar. Installing in basement but floor not close to level. Should I just use self leveling cement for entire bath floor then mortar or level everything out with mortar for shower and then mortar / thinset for tiling of rest of bathroom?pics if they help
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:07 AM   #2
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I'd definitely level the floor before doing anything else. It'll be much easier to lay flooring base trim, everything once that floor is level.

How far out of level is that? It looks like its 1.5" maybe?

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Yeah I've decided to just level it, even though the self-leveling compound is quite expensive. I think that area is around 1" off, at least.

I'm not sure how many bags I'm going to need though. The bathroom is approximately 4' x 11'. Any idea?

Any pointers on the self-leveling compound?

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I'll defer to some of the experts. I've personally never used it. I've heard its a very easy product to work with though. Hopefully some others here will chime in.
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Most self leveling compounds say on the bag that they're good enough to 1/2 inch.

If you're out more than that you might want to prep the floor and put some concrete down.

If youre set on using self leveling compound,maybe keep it a little thicker than the bag calls for,it acts more like concrete that way.

Stuff smells like hell,get some ventilation in there,or keep an air sickness bag nearby!!!
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Regarding set shower pan,use thin set mortar and cover it in Saran Wrap or the like.

This will allow you to remove in the future or reposition pan while you install with a minimum of mess.

Pan will feel much more substantial underfoot with a layer of thinset underneath.Good Luck on your project.
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Read up on self leveling compounds----for deep pours, sand can be added----it is expensive--

I don't have time to give you great details at the moment---I set my shower pans into masons mix-(brick mortar)

While you wait--for thick fills 'deck mud set into a bed of wet thinset works--look for a sticky in the flooring section--Mud-what is it? By Bud Cline---
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Yepp,hit the floor with a layer of thinset and deck mud ( 1 part portland mix to 4-5 parts sand and not much water) It will be a rather dry pack where you can make a ball out of it and no water will squeeze.
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Thanks all. So I should skip the self leveling and do thinset then deck mud? What about the rest of the bathroom though? It's probably not level throughout.

What do you mean by wet thinset?
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Deck mud is a rather dry mix---similar to damp sand that you would make a sand castle from---

You need to help it bond to the old concrete--so--trowel down some fresh thinset first--then start packing your deck mud on top of that----

How to build a shower - Building a shower pan with pre-sloped mortar bed, liner and curb.

This link will give you a bit of info on deck mud-----

You can only get so thin with the deck mud----for the final topping--use self leveling compound.
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I like this link better for deck-mud info http://www.johnbridge.com/how-to/deck-mud/ , hope it helps

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