Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Concrete, Stone & Masonry

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 01-26-2014, 09:59 AM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 5
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Adding a two row curved CMU wall to pool...


Hi all, this is my first post been lurking around for a while as I ramp up on my pool remodel.
The plan was to have my 20 yr old pool resurfaced but a back yard remodel was the result. Not unusual as this has happened on other projects.
The pool is now going to be surrounded by travertine pavers and the far edge being raised for a stone faced wall and water feature.
I plan to most of the travertine deck, BBQ island and pool wall.
The deck will be overlay travertine, I outweighed the cost for tearing up the kool deck concrete vs. overlay and overlay wins - the concrete is in great shape.
The wall will be two row block to give me a 24-26" height for a rain sheer descent.

The two question(s) I have are related to the pool wall. First, I had a structural engineer(friend of the family) confirm the wall could be made on top of my concrete deck using 8x8x8 block. Rebar will be set through the deck and into the pool bond beam every 2 ft.
1. the deck has joints about every 4' I had some concern with these "pads" moving which would effect the wall? is this an issue? if so would leaving out mortar at these joints of block be good. Fill with mortar/epoxy that can expand/contract...if such a thing?
2. the wall will be faced with ledger stone on top of a brown coat. I think the brown coat will be needed since the wall is curved leaving a faceted a larger mortar gaps. Anyway, the question is to leave a small step for the first row of stone or set the block right up to my saw cut line which is nearly flush to the water line tile. See the drawing showing A or B.

Thanks in advance for the comments/advice...
chris
Attached Thumbnails
Adding a two row curved CMU wall to pool...-image.jpg  

Chris fox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2014, 10:00 AM   #2
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 5
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Adding a two row curved CMU wall to pool...


Looks like I can only upload 1 pic at a time
Attached Thumbnails
Adding a two row curved CMU wall to pool...-image.jpg  

Chris fox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2014, 10:02 AM   #3
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 5
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Adding a two row curved CMU wall to pool...


One more...
Attached Thumbnails
Adding a two row curved CMU wall to pool...-image.jpg  
Chris fox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2014, 08:29 PM   #4
Member
 
Msradell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Louisville Kentucky
Posts: 1,215
Rewards Points: 576
Default

Adding a two row curved CMU wall to pool...


I would think the option you are calling B would be best. It would support the bottom of the stone facing and make it look more like it was built that way originally.
Msradell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 04:59 AM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: atl & hilton head
Posts: 3,287
Rewards Points: 2,156
Default

Adding a two row curved CMU wall to pool...


http://www.doityourself.com/forum/br...ning-wall.html

all on the same page ? ? ?
stadry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 10:45 PM   #6
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 5
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Adding a two row curved CMU wall to pool...


Yep same guy.
Chris fox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2014, 12:26 PM   #7
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 5
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Adding a two row curved CMU wall to pool...


For this same project, the two row block will terminate at two existing walls: a property wall and a pool equipment wall. I know both will "move" so no mortar joint.
1. how much of gap should I leave
2. what should be used in the gap? foam expansion joint material then filled/covered elastic like epoxy?

thanks
Chris fox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 08:48 AM   #8
Concrete & Masonry
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,737
Rewards Points: 2,026
Default

Adding a two row curved CMU wall to pool...


If the bond beam is level now, and hasn't shown signs of shifting/movement in the past, I certainly wouldn't make a control joint in the block and stone veneer every 4'. It's going to look terrible IMO. Also, I'd likely move it back so the veneer was flush with the coping when completed.

As for the ends, backer rod and a gun grade elastomeric sealant would work well. Assuming you're not in a freeze-thaw region, there should be very minimal differential movement, so 1/2" or less isolation joint should suffice.........

jomama45 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Adding wall with door opening - sloped ceiling and no joist for top plate Jebross Remodeling 11 01-11-2012 09:34 AM
Adding wall for closet newfie49 General DIY Discussions 9 01-08-2011 04:05 PM
Installing laminate in a room with one big curved wall (PICS) vu321 Flooring 9 06-04-2010 03:15 PM
adding a load-bearing wall jpsmith Building & Construction 8 03-04-2009 07:19 AM
Atlantic-need your opinion on markd's comments about my vapor barrier? yummy mummy Building & Construction 11 03-07-2007 09:47 AM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.