DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum

DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum (http://www.diychatroom.com/)
-   Windows and Doors (http://www.diychatroom.com/f104/)
-   -   Window Leaking in Wall From edge of Sill (http://www.diychatroom.com/f104/window-leaking-wall-edge-sill-181233/)

alan93 06-03-2013 08:01 PM

Window Leaking in Wall From edge of Sill
 
My carpenter guy just pulled the dry wall and we are seeing the wood rot from the leaks.
We poured water down the edge of the window and it does come out the weep hole but also goes down wall on the inside of the siding.

Is the window leaking?

Is it possible to calk that hole on right side of window that leads to weep hole and expect to avoid replacing the window?http://home.fuse.net/alan93/Window/Win1.jpg
http://home.fuse.net/alan93/Window/Win2.jpg

huesmann 06-03-2013 08:07 PM

I'm just a goober looking at your photos, but it looks to me like water can get through or under your screen and travel along the edge of the flat bit at the bottom (sill?) and down the channel at the side of your window.

joecaption 06-03-2013 08:11 PM

Heck no.
See if that plactic piece comes out on the bottom so you can see if the frames cracked in the corner.

alan93 06-03-2013 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1194648)
Heck no.
See if that plactic piece comes out on the bottom so you can see if the frames cracked in the corner.

That is a great idea but I can only get the outside edge up.
I'm afraid of breaking it if i pry any harder.

It would be great if that comes out, I could seal it from that opening.

Is this possible?

joecaption 06-03-2013 10:00 PM

Some you have to remove the sashs, then remove one of the side tracks to be able to lift out that bottom piece.

alan93 06-04-2013 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1194756)
Some you have to remove the sashs, then remove one of the side tracks to be able to lift out that bottom piece.

What part is the sash? I am not finding info on this anywhere else.

wkearney99 06-04-2013 06:52 AM

STFW is your friend: window parts

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.diylife.c...f-a-window.jpg

Do the windows have a means to tilt them in for cleaning? Remove the windows (the sashes) and then that'd let you deal with the rest of the jamb.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HpSS5fG5FS...ung+window.jpg

Otherwise you get into removing jamb stops to allow removing the sashes.

But it would help to have an overall picture of whole window, along with some pix of how the jamb and sashes meet.

alan93 06-04-2013 08:13 AM

Yes the windows tilt in and I can probably remove them (sashes).

Thanks that is a very informative picture, however I still don't know how to get the bottom part up , if it comes up.

It seems I will need to replace the whole window.

I have a repair guy who will try some caulking first though. Its worth a shot to try that first I guess.

kwikfishron 06-04-2013 08:20 AM

Can you post a couple of pictures from the outside? Including one standing back showing the whole wall.

wkearney99 06-04-2013 08:24 AM

There's a ton of different ways replacement windows can be built. And no shortage of ways they can be (im)properly installed. So there's not always a single way to describe how to take them apart. That's why better pictures help, they might show something that's more obvious.

Same thing goes with caulking. More is not necessarily better. There's a path the water has to take. Putting the wrong materials in the wrong places can actually make things worse. Again, it's entirely dependent on how well the windows were installed in the first place. This may lead to request to see pictures of it from the outside too.

alan93 06-04-2013 06:31 PM

Here it is
 
WE pulled up the bottom piece, it was held in place by caulking.
Once that was out we could see the inside weep holes, one in the wide channel and one in the thin groove.

Now, my question is, are the weep holes joined together by an inner channel?

Because we are calking the one side of the window and weep holes with a gob of caulk hoping that the other weep hole will take over for the drainage.

If it doesn't work, the window will get replaced but trying this first.

Take a look at it apart now:
http://home.fuse.net/alan93/Window/Win3.jpg
http://home.fuse.net/alan93/Window/Win4.jpg

kwikfishron 06-05-2013 05:40 AM

Fill up the bottom track with water and see where it ends up. It should all drain out of the two weep holes at the bottom of the window on the outside. If any of the water ends up on the inside then you likely have a problem with the window itself.

Do this a few times if need be, if you can't get it to leak that way then it's time pull off some siding to see what's going on. Although I've seen damaged extrusions cause leaks before it's pretty rare and more times than not leaks are caused by improper installation of the window/siding itself.

alan93 06-05-2013 06:36 AM

We filled up the weep holes on the side that is leaking.
Hopefully water going in the other holes will not drain down a leak that was not caulked.
Will see how it handles rain then will spray some water at siding.
And then will spray water at the window.
I get a lot of horizontal rain on that side of the house as it is.

I didn't think windows could be fixed by pulling off siding.
I figure that if this doesn't work the window will need to be replaced and it doesn't matter if it was installed wrong or if it just broke.

Windows on Wash 06-05-2013 06:39 AM

Pocket sill window.

It is either leaking at the sill's connection to the jambs or at the homes connection to the window.

Fill up the pocket as people have recommended and just fill it up enough to fill up but not drain over via the weep holes.

You can plug the weep holes temporarily to isolate the exterior connection probability.

If it starts leaking then, prepare to pull out the window as that is the only repair.

HomeSealed 06-05-2013 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windows on Wash (Post 1195517)
Pocket sill window.

It is either leaking at the sill's connection to the jambs or at the homes connection to the window.

Fill up the pocket as people have recommended and just fill it up enough to fill up but not drain over via the weep holes.

You can plug the weep holes temporarily to isolate the exterior connection probability.

If it starts leaking then, prepare to pull out the window as that is the only repair.

+1... Why most pros recommend against the pocket sill design.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:51 AM.


Copyright 2003-2014 Escalate Media LP. All Rights Reserved