Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Windows and Doors

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-24-2013, 03:25 PM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 680
Share |
Default

Window closing very tight


We installed two double hung windows. The one window closes and latched nicely but the other one does not line up as easily and you really have to push down to get the latches to line up and close. Bad thing is the windows have been wrapped caulked and installed. We checked to make sure the top was pushed all the way up. Any advice?Thanks

Mstrlucky74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2013, 03:50 PM   #2
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Southeastern MA
Posts: 1,342
Default

Window closing very tight


The frame probably got knocked out of square when it was installed. The real fix is to check it and adjust as needed.

djlandkpl is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to djlandkpl For This Useful Post:
Mstrlucky74 (03-25-2013)
Old 03-24-2013, 09:21 PM   #3
Home Performance
 
HomeSealed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Milwaukee,WI
Posts: 1,426
Default

Window closing very tight


Most likely an installation issue. Open the upper and lower sashes about 1/4". Is the reveal consistent all the way across? If not, the window was installed out of square. If it is, then you possibly have a warped or oversized sash.
__________________
Replacement Windows, doors, siding, roofing, insulation, and certified energy consulting.
www.HomeSealed.com
HomeSealed is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to HomeSealed For This Useful Post:
Mstrlucky74 (03-25-2013), Windows on Wash (03-25-2013)
Old 03-24-2013, 09:38 PM   #4
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 25,761
Default

Window closing very tight


Got a framing square? Check the frames.
joecaption is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to joecaption For This Useful Post:
Mstrlucky74 (03-25-2013)
Old 03-25-2013, 08:36 AM   #5
Exterior Construction
 
Windows on Wash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: VA, MD, DC
Posts: 5,619
Default

Window closing very tight


Post up a picture when you can.

Easiest test is like HomeSealed said. Use sash meeting with the head jamb as a determinant and you will probably see what you need to see.
Windows on Wash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 08:51 AM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 25,761
Default

Window closing very tight


Is anyone checking to see if there square and level before there fullly installed?
Any old house I've ever worked on has sagged over the years and the bottom R/O is almost never level. You have to install one nail in the side in the nailing fin just to hold it in place and not nail it tight, check it for level and plumb, shim if needed, then nail in the rest of the nails.

If there just sitting the window in the hole resting on the bottom R/O and counting on that being level, there's the problum.
joecaption is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 09:27 AM   #7
Home Performance
 
HomeSealed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Milwaukee,WI
Posts: 1,426
Default

Window closing very tight


Quote:
Originally Posted by joecaption View Post
Is anyone checking to see if there square and level before there fullly installed?
Any old house I've ever worked on has sagged over the years and the bottom R/O is almost never level. You have to install one nail in the side in the nailing fin just to hold it in place and not nail it tight, check it for level and plumb, shim if needed, then nail in the rest of the nails.

If there just sitting the window in the hole resting on the bottom R/O and counting on that being level, there's the problum.
Not necessarily Joe. Obviously it is ideal to have the window installed perfectly plumb and level, but it could be installed at a 30* angle and operate just fine as long as it is SQUARE. As you mentioned, most homes have window openings that are out of square, so on some occasions a perfectly plumb and level window will look crooked with the interface to the casing (and exterior trim). In those cases we "split the difference" in order to minimize an awkward appearance but maintain squareness and not too far off that it would affect drainage or anything like that. Most window installers leave their level in the truck, except when you get into large mulled units etc.
__________________
Replacement Windows, doors, siding, roofing, insulation, and certified energy consulting.
www.HomeSealed.com
HomeSealed is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to HomeSealed For This Useful Post:
kwikfishron (03-25-2013)
Old 03-25-2013, 09:31 AM   #8
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 680
Default

Window closing very tight


Quote:
Originally Posted by joecaption View Post
Is anyone checking to see if there square and level before there fullly installed?
Any old house I've ever worked on has sagged over the years and the bottom R/O is almost never level. You have to install one nail in the side in the nailing fin just to hold it in place and not nail it tight, check it for level and plumb, shim if needed, then nail in the rest of the nails.

If there just sitting the window in the hole resting on the bottom R/O and counting on that being level, there's the problum.
Anyway of correcting this after the window has been installed?
Mstrlucky74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 09:32 AM   #9
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 25,761
Default

Window closing very tight


Know what you mean, lots of fun trying to figure out what size window to order when there way off like that.
With an old sided over house like that sometimes the outside siding is level but the inside trim and R/O are off.
joecaption is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 10:25 AM   #10
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 680
Default

Window closing very tight


Quote:
Originally Posted by joecaption View Post
Know what you mean, lots of fun trying to figure out what size window to order when there way off like that.
With an old sided over house like that sometimes the outside siding is level but the inside trim and R/O are off.
Anyway of correcting this after the window has been installed? No sheetrock has been installed. Thanks.
Mstrlucky74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 10:39 AM   #11
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Southeastern MA
Posts: 1,342
Default

Window closing very tight


Quote:
Originally Posted by Mstrlucky74 View Post
Anyway of correcting this after the window has been installed? No sheetrock has been installed. Thanks.
Have you determined if the frame is out of square? If it is and the caulking has probably cured, you'll probably have to pull the window and reinstall it so you can get a good seal.
djlandkpl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 11:17 AM   #12
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 680
Default

Window closing very tight


Quote:
Originally Posted by djlandkpl View Post
Have you determined if the frame is out of square? If it is and the caulking has probably cured, you'll probably have to pull the window and reinstall it so you can get a good seal.
Not yet. Pretty sure that's what it has to be. What exactly are the "check marks" as to whether the window closing and locking is not lined up properly? What I mean is that when you close the window all the way it is off a hair and requires a firm push down to latch it. thanks.
Mstrlucky74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 11:27 AM   #13
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 25,761
Default

Window closing very tight


First tell tail sign it's off is how the screen sits at the bottom. There should not be a gap.
It's one thing to have to apply a slight pressure in the middle to get it to lock quite another to have to stand there and pull down on one side to get both to lock.
joecaption is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 11:37 AM   #14
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Southeastern MA
Posts: 1,342
Default

Window closing very tight


Easiest way to check is with a framing square. Check all four corners looking along the edge of the square. If you don't have a framing square you can use a measuring tape. Using the same points, measure from the top left corner diagonally to the bottom right. Then from the top right to the bottom left. The measurement should be the same if the window frame is square. As an additional check you and measure from the top of the frame to the bottom of the frame along several points.
djlandkpl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 11:50 AM   #15
Home Performance
 
HomeSealed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Milwaukee,WI
Posts: 1,426
Default

Window closing very tight


If it is completely wrapped caulked and installed, the only way to fix it properly is to pull it out and reset it. Sometimes you can twist the frame around enough with some strategically placed shims to get it to lock easier, but that is not rectifying the fact that is installed out of square. You're going to get poor sealing/air leakage and other potential issues down the road if it is not set square.

__________________
Replacement Windows, doors, siding, roofing, insulation, and certified energy consulting.
www.HomeSealed.com
HomeSealed is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
uPVC window handle won't close window properly, how can I fix it? Epimenides Windows and Doors 4 02-10-2013 02:09 PM
window performance question renbelle Building & Construction 4 10-06-2010 02:25 PM
How to 'finish' outside of replacement window? KatieAK Building & Construction 9 04-02-2010 06:37 AM
Old Bay Window, lack of support... ogrenjr Building & Construction 6 03-04-2010 09:30 PM
help need to know how to replace windows wrapped in drywall caide3 Carpentry 4 03-02-2010 12:41 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.