Umm...So THIS Seems Like A Problem...? - Windows and Doors - DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum


Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Windows and Doors

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-23-2011, 03:07 PM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 54
Rewards Points: 75
Default

Umm...So THIS seems like a problem...?


This is the bottom of an exterior side door in a house I might be interested in purchasing (if I negotiate the price down from what my realtor and I think is unreasonable, but that's another story). It would seem there's a moisture barrier problem with this door? There's black mold growing to the left, on the wall. This door is VERY hard to open and close. I thought it was from swelling with moisture, but a friend seems to think it's just a tuft of wood at the top that needs to be shaved off to fit the door in its frame properly. This is an old wooden door, possibly original, and I'd like to keep it if feasible - but what can I do to make it more weather-proof and not have mushrooms growing inside the house?


Advertisement

TOTALN00B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2011, 04:23 PM   #2
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 9,519
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Umm...So THIS seems like a problem...?


You would need to remove the door from the opening, clean off the organics and get a look at the door. It might be salvageable, and it might not.
Ron

Advertisement

Ron6519 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2011, 04:30 PM   #3
nap
You talking to me?
 
nap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: sw mi
Posts: 5,407
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Umm...So THIS seems like a problem...?


there are some things to check you haven't addressed here.

If there is no protection from the weather on the outside such as a portico or other construction and the ground is too high, this could be caused by that.

If you end up with water setting outside the door, it will leak in. Not too many doors are watertight at their perimeter. If this is a wood door, setting water will also be soaked up if the door isn't 100% sealed with a waterproof finish.

If it's a 100% wood door and it has soaked up water, I would plan on replacing it.
nap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2011, 05:30 PM   #4
old guy contractor
 
tcleve4911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Maine on Little Sebago
Posts: 858
Rewards Points: 502
Default

Umm...So THIS seems like a problem...?


From the looks of the drywall and baseboard next to it, I'd guess there's more moisture issues that just the door......
tcleve4911 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2011, 09:10 PM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 54
Rewards Points: 75
Default

Umm...So THIS seems like a problem...?


Here's what the door looks like from the outside. (Sorry, that little bush in the middle of the photo is kinda blocking it, but you can see that the door is elevated off the ground, and outside is a slight drop down to cement steps). So, there would never be any standing water just outside the door, which makes this water damage only at the base of this room here weird to me. Unlike most old houses I looked at in this rainy climate, this house's moisture issues seem to be miraculously confined to this one little room. This is also one of the only rooms in the house without really high ceilings - it's what appears to have once been a mud-room, converted into a so-called bedroom (don't get me started on that). It's also obvious that this section of the house is an addition to the original house, but not necessarily a recent one. This lower section you see in the picture below is the "bedroom" with the mushrooms in it, plus the bathroom. Both are "sunken," one step down from the rest of the house. The bathroom, however, seems to be fine.



Is this part of the problem (see below)? See the horizontal boards on the wall on the right? That's part of the original exterior of the house.



However, looking at an expanded image of the "mushroom-zone," you can see that the ORIGINAL wooden exterior wall (on the left) seems to be ok, but the NEW exterior wall (on the right) is moldy. Can I just clean it up and caulk between the two walls, and maybe replace the door + frame?

TOTALN00B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2011, 09:52 PM   #6
Stuck in the 70's
 
Blondesense's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: south central Missouri
Posts: 2,163
Rewards Points: 1,020
Default

Umm...So THIS seems like a problem...?




Quote:
Originally Posted by tcleve4911 View Post
From the looks of the drywall and baseboard next to it, I'd guess there's more moisture issues that just the door......
I'd also want to peel back the carpet and see what is left of the subfloor.

Edited to add: Is it possible the source of the problem is the roof? Improper or missing flashing along the addition?

Last edited by Blondesense; 04-23-2011 at 09:58 PM.
Blondesense is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Blondesense For This Useful Post:
TOTALN00B (04-25-2011)
Old 04-23-2011, 10:12 PM   #7
nap
You talking to me?
 
nap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: sw mi
Posts: 5,407
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Umm...So THIS seems like a problem...?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Blondesense View Post

Edited to add: Is it possible the source of the problem is the roof? Improper or missing flashing along the addition?
that is exactly what I was going to suggest. or maybe where the two sections of building are joined there is a problem what allows water to enter the corner and run down.
nap is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to nap For This Useful Post:
TOTALN00B (04-25-2011)
Old 04-24-2011, 07:49 AM   #8
old guy contractor
 
tcleve4911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Maine on Little Sebago
Posts: 858
Rewards Points: 502
Default

Umm...So THIS seems like a problem...?


Since you can see the exterior wall from the interior, I'd be willing to bet that there's a flashing/roof-to-wall connection that has failed.

I'm also willing to bet that that entire corner is wet and when you uncover the skin, it will not be pretty.
tcleve4911 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to tcleve4911 For This Useful Post:
TOTALN00B (04-25-2011)
Old 04-24-2011, 09:27 AM   #9
MJW
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 938
Rewards Points: 500
Default

Umm...So THIS seems like a problem...?


I would start with cutting back all the vegetation away from the house. How long has this been vacant?
MJW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2011, 10:49 AM   #10
Mod
 
kwikfishron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Kansas (NCK)
Posts: 7,831
Rewards Points: 2,500
Default

Umm...So THIS seems like a problem...?


Post a picture of the whole door from the outside.
__________________
A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words
Especially In The DIY Chatroom
kwikfishron is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to kwikfishron For This Useful Post:
TOTALN00B (04-25-2011)
Old 04-25-2011, 09:46 PM   #11
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 9
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Umm...So THIS seems like a problem...?


I would also have a mold remediation company look at it. They will probably want to do mold testing which is a bit expensive, but only if the seller is willing to play ball. They will give you a nice fat number that includes hazmat suits and isolation of the work area and everything. Some of what they put in the quote will be overkill, but the seller doesn't need to know you will tear it out yourself. The big number on the quote will give you something to back up your lower offer.
JimV is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to JimV For This Useful Post:
TOTALN00B (04-25-2011)
Old 04-25-2011, 11:37 PM   #12
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 54
Rewards Points: 75
Default

Umm...So THIS seems like a problem...?


Hey, thanks Jim!
TOTALN00B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2011, 11:59 PM   #13
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 54
Rewards Points: 75
Default

Umm...So THIS seems like a problem...?


MJW: It's been on the market pretty much since October 2009, listed too high compared to comps in the neighborhood. They certainly don't seem to be in any hurry to sell the thing, but my realtor thinks they may be ready to negotiate...Everything else here has consistently gone down $10K every couple months, but this has stayed the same for about 6 months now. I don't think it's been vacant that whole time. The first time I looked at it, a month ago, it looked like they did have someone staying there and watching it for them, though it looks like that person may have moved out. There's still furniture, and they were still doing work on the house in January, which is when they tore the carpets out in all the rooms but this one. It does appear to be habitable, at least (more than I can say for some of the houses I've looked at).
TOTALN00B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2011, 12:27 AM   #14
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 9,993
Rewards Points: 2,052
Default

Umm...So THIS seems like a problem...?


They may have been disgusted or digested......

Leave your name and number, and one of a quality mold remedial company...

Gary

Advertisement

__________________
If any ads are present in my answer above, I do not condone/support/use the product or services listed, they are there against my permission.
Gary in WA is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2 TVs fried: Electrical vs. Comcast Coax Cable Problem LynOprinka Electrical 17 07-16-2012 09:01 PM
Very Strange Shower Drain Problem MattWhite Plumbing 12 05-21-2011 12:53 PM
Don't understand this breaker tripping problem majesticjess Electrical 10 03-05-2010 07:42 PM
Stymied by window leakage problem. Matth3w General DIY Discussions 5 06-11-2008 07:26 PM
Post-Tension Slab Problem Advice/Help Mike McBride Building & Construction 2 01-09-2007 02:51 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts