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Old 02-25-2012, 09:23 PM   #1
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I recently bought a 36" Larson Storm door to fit what I thought was a standard 36" door as that is what the exterior door is. The door has the vertical windows on each side so probably 60" width total. The frame on the outside is actually about 36 5/8" with the current framing cut into the bottom plate. I'm trying to figure out the best and easiest way to fit this door in. I will also have to modify the height of the frame by roughly 1/2"

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Do not follow about the 60" and the vertical windows. Are you trying to put a storm door on a sliding glass door?

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Sounds like you have a door with side lites which would have no bearing on the door size.
Adding a piece of lattice on the hindge and latch side will shim it out enough to make up for the width. The bottom piece that attaches to the bottom of the door will make up for the 1/2".
Make sure you predrill all the holes for the screws in the frame trim. There cheap screws and will round out if you don't.
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Alright thanks joe, I was thinking about a piece of plywood or something mounted in.
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Sounds like you have a door with side lites which would have no bearing on the door size.
Adding a piece of lattice on the hindge and latch side will shim it out enough to make up for the width. The bottom piece that attaches to the bottom of the door will make up for the 1/2".
Make sure you predrill all the holes for the screws in the frame trim. There cheap screws and will round out if you don't.

Joe, those cheap screws are not cheap, they are aluminum hence they are soft.
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Joe, those cheap screws are not cheap, they are aluminum hence they are soft.
They are cheap aluminum. There are differant grade aluminum screw and they use the lowest grade.
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They are cheap aluminum. There are differant grade aluminum screw and they use the lowest grade.

What ever......
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The common aluminum grades for aluminum sheet metal screws are: 1100-H14, 3003-H14, 5052-H32 and 6061-T6. Grade 1100-H14 has high chemical and water resistance. The 3003-H14 grade has greater strength and is also corrosion resistant. Grades 5052-H32 and 6061-T6 are stronger and more durable.

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Table M2 - Common Aluminum Alloys and their Applications

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1100-O
1100-H14 Commercially pure aluminum resistant to chemical attack & weathering, low cost, ductile for deep drawing & easy to weld, used in chemical equipment, fan blades, sheet metal work.2014-O
2014-T4, T451
2014-T6, T651
Truck Frames, aircraft structures, automotive parts, cylinders &pistons, machine parts, structural applications2017-T4, T451 Fasteners, fittings2024-O
2024-T3, T4
2024 -T351
Alclad High strength structural applications, excellent machinability in T-temper, fair workability &corrosion resistance, alclad combines high strength and corrosion resistance, used in truck wheels, aircraft structures, automotive parts, fasteners, recreation equipment, screws & rivets3003-O
3003-H12
3003-H14
3003-H16 Most popular general-purpose alloy, stronger than 1100 with same good formability & weldability, used in cooking utensils, chemical equipment, pressure vessels, sheet metal work, builder's hardware, storage tanks, trucks & trailers, architectural3004-O
3004-H38 Sheet metal work, storage tanks, agricultural applications, building products, containers, electrical applications, furniture, trucks &trailers3105-O
3150-H14
3150-H18
3150-H25 Siding, sheet metal work, automotive parts, building products, electronics, furniture, trucks & trailers3105-O
3150-H14
3150-H18
3150-H25 Siding, sheet metal work, automotive parts, building products, electronics, furniture, trucks & trailers5005-H34 Appliances, utensils, architectural, electrical conductors, general sheet metal, hardware, marine applications5052-O
5052-H112
5052-H32
5052-H34 Stronger than 3003, readily formable, good weldability & resistance to corrosion, used in sheet metal work, hydraulic tube, appliances, pressure vessels, hardware signs, marine applications, trucks 6061-O
6061-T4
6061-T6, T651 Good formability, weldability, corrosion resistance, & strength in the T-tempers, good general-purpose alloy used for a broad range of structural applications & welded assemblies, pipeline, marine applications, furniture, agricultural applications, aircraft's, architectural, building products, chemical equipment, electrical and electronic parts, fasteners, general sheet metal, recreation equipment, storage tanks6063-T5
6063-T6 Pipe railing, furniture, architectural extrusions, marine applications, truck & trailer, recreation equipment, building products, electrical and electronic parts7050-T7651 High strength alloy in aircraft & structures, recreation equipment
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Regardless of the screw type/compostion, pre-drilling is not a bad idea, especially if the door does not have those plastic(or metal) strips that cover the screws. If they are just painted heads that will be left exposed, they will inevitably lose paint and round out somewhat (and look terrible) if you don't pre-drill.

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