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Old 02-10-2012, 02:28 PM   #1
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Sash Replacement vs. Insert Window Replacement


I have 25 year old anderson window's on my house and they need updating. I was originally looking at doing insert replacement window's but then saw that Anderson offer's just the replacement sash. Pop out the old, pop in the new and done. No lose of visable glass and easy DIY...

Does anyone have any experience with this and can speak to pros and cons of this? what is beeter, etc.....

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How tight is the window? Does is have much air leakage?

Do you know the condition of the sill behind the vinyl?

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Just replacing the sashes to me is like only fixing 1/2 the problem.
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Actually I think if the rest of the frame is good then why not?
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Actually I think if the rest of the frame is good then why not?
If the frame is good and the fitment/air seal is good, sashes are okay.

The issue is that most window's problems don't stop and start with the glass.
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I have never seen too many bad Andersons, except the glass.
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I have never seen too many bad Andersons, except the glass.
They are usually better than most.

They do sill rot behind the cladding a good bit though.
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i actually used to think badly of them, but have changed my mind. I know if I need something at least I can get to talk to someone.

One other thing, everyone seems to knock the HD windows but..., the company that is making them is Anderson. I like their customer service.

now back to the thread.......
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i actually used to think badly of them, but have changed my mind. I know if I need something at least I can get to talk to someone.

One other thing, everyone seems to knock the HD windows but..., the company that is making them is Anderson. I like their customer service.

now back to the thread.......
HD?

Home Depot?

Andersen does make some (Silverline in vinyl) of them but they have some crap windows inside that line.
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HD?

Home Depot?

Andersen does make some (Silverline in vinyl) of them but they have some crap windows inside that line.
Terribly made window imo.

On the original question, have you gotten prices both ways? From what I've seen, the sash replacements are not much cheaper, and they never really seal that well. The old frame has probably settled so it's out of square, etc... It can be done, just make sure that you thoroughly inspect those frames.
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everyone seems to knock the HD windows but..., the company that is making them is Anderson
If the "American Craftsman" were truly "Andersen" windows, then why not just sell them as Andersen? Why the need for the other name. Besides that, why do they cost 50% of what the Andersen windows cost? The whole thing just sounds like a bad idea to me. I'm sure the marketing works though, 50 people walk by the window aisle and I wouldn't be shocked if 45 of them just said "oh, It's Andersen and It's cheap - it must be good, let's buy it".
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Andersen truly does make the profit on those junkers and I think that is all they really care about.
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Make sure everyone is taking about the same window maker. There are Anderson and then there is Andersen. I didn't realize this until I called Anderson about a replacement sash and i could not find the window model number and they asked me if I was possibly there were AndersEn wondows. Later I found the brand AndersOn etched in the vinyl track.
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I did sash kits to replace my old single pains. Frames & sills were in good shape. Brick exterior, plaster interior with plaster returns & no wood trim.
Used Kolbe & Kolbe AL clad wood sash kits. They came with a vinyl track held it with metal clips & backed with a foam seal.
DIY was very easy, no loss of glass, actually gained a bit due to thinner frames (some of our windows were smallish already). When I factored in the savings from not changing trim... the savings were Very significant.
Accurate measurements are very important. My supplier is fastidious & measured every opening meticulously 3 separate times = good fit.
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Just replacing the sashes to me is like only fixing 1/2 the problem.
what if its just the sash thats broken

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