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Old 02-06-2012, 04:33 PM   #16
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+1 to WoW. A full tear-out would always be ideal, but when the existing frame is watertight and in good shape, it becomes difficult to justify the added expense in comparison to a properly installed insert. Unfortunately, inserts get a bad rep by the guys running around slapping them in at 20 minutes a pop.

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Old 02-06-2012, 06:28 PM   #17
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Here are a couple pictures of the exterior. It mostly shows the flashing and storm windows. Any idea why they have such a large area around the window? I've noticed this on a couple of other houses in my area that have the same type of siding as me. I think it's steel but please correct me if I am wrong. We like the look o houses where the siding is closer to the window and doesn't have this big frame of flashing around the window. Is that just because of the siding type? I've seen vinyl is much closer. I am leaning towards trying to fix these windows for now if it can be done. Any tips for removing the caulk shown in the photo. It badly needs to be recaulked and the outside wood window trim scrapped and repainted. The lower left seems to be pretty open to the elements since the caulk is cracked. Should I try and remove the flashing to see if anything is damaged or just caulk the gap?
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:34 AM   #18
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Where is the leak showing itself?

I don't see any of the screen track weepers or frame weepers on the lower section. Wouldn't be the first time they have been covered up.
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:42 AM   #19
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It looks like you have conventional wood windows with aluminum storms... and a terrible, terrible caulking job.
On appearance, it looks like standard brickmold that was capped in aluminum. Nothing out of the ordinary. Unless you are replacing he siding, there is really no way to eliminate the trim (although it could be redone). I'd add that you may see siding right up against the windows on newer homes, but that is done to save the cost of the extra material and labor, not because it is a desirable look.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:02 AM   #20
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Duh...for me.

Not sure what I was looking at?

Caulking work is pretty terrible so that is a clear indication of installer skill. We see more windows that leak after capping work is done (usually by siding installers) than anything.
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Okay so any recommendations for removing the old caulk? Is it just a manual effort with a puffy knife and utility knife
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Old 02-07-2012, 04:26 PM   #22
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Generally, yes, along with some solvents. Yours is pretty smeared up though, you really have your work cut out for you... Is your aluminum "chaulking" (you wipe your finger on it and paint dust comes off)?
If you don't want to replace the windows or the trim anytime soon, you might just want to clean it up as best you can, then give it a new coat of paint and caulk.
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Yes it is chaulking. Actually all my siding is. The plan is to replace windows and siding but it might be a year or two so I just want it properly sealed in the mean time. I guess what is most ideal to less ideal in dealing with this. We are unsure on type of replacement siding or windows right now and just want to repaint the windows, and recaulk for now if possible. If I need to replace window trim I guess let me know what materials I need so I can see if that is in our budget. I plan on doing all the restoration work myself. In the future i expect to replace the windows myself, but will probably hire someone to do the siding.
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If budget allows, replacement of siding and windows at the same time is ideal. It allows for a full-tear out with less work.
On replacing the trim, you would need to rent a brake (and learn how to use it), and purchase a roll or 2 of trim coil (roughly $75 per roll). Or, you could always hire someone to do a new wrap/caulk. Around here that runs around $60-$90 per window depending on options.
The cheapest thing would be a paint job, but you'd probably want some advice from a painting pro on how to prep that chaulking aluminum... not my area of expertise .
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Okay thanks for the info. We were planning on getting quotes this summer so we had a saving goal anyway. Maybe I can replace some windows this summer and some the next. Anything special I should watch for when replacing the windows? For the ones I need to just caulk till I can afford new ones any recommendations on a solvent to remove the old caulk?
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If you are pulling the siding or not, just get rid of everything that is wrapped there and put in new construction windows. You'll be way better off.

If doing new siding, the new windows will be easy.
If not doing the siding, you can use some PVC boards or some cedar. I would recommend getting away from the old brick mould and aluminum wrap. That really isn't the modern way to do windows, IMO. Much better products out there now.

BTW, if that wrap would have been done correctly, it wouldn't hardly need any caulking.
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Have any pictures of the newer way of doing it? If I do go with new construction windows I worry about timing. If I did them myself it seems like it may take me awhile. How do I deal with the siding or molding around the window between the time of me getting the windows replaced and hiring someone to do siding.
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Here is one I did (siding, roof, soffit, fascia's) with 1x4's and wrapped with aluminum coil. Just imagine the aluminum wrapped 1x as an Azek (or similar) board. If you don't know what that is, just do a search. Certainteed has something similar also. Of course do proper flashing, taping, and insulating. A new construction window may cause you to do new trim and jambs inside also, but well worth it in the end.

These are all just suggestions, so you can make up your own mind. I think most will agree that new construction windows are best especially if already planning on doing siding.

Your timeline will definitely make a difference on what you do and what you can handle yourself.
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I did that job about 5 years ago or so. I'm terrible for taking pics and don't have near what some of these other guys have. I'm sure someone will post you some pics of proper flashing and such if need be.
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MJW you did all that yourself? Was that the first time you had replaced windows and siding? How long did it take you?

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