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Amateuralex 06-07-2013 12:06 PM

old anderson sashes coming apart
 
We have some 1977 Anderson single hung windows. A few of the sashes are coming apart. Gaps in the corners. The sashes are wood, but the frames are vinyl.

Can I just get some vices and squeeze them back together, or is this a lot more complicated than that? Surprisingly, I couldn't find much on the internet about this. Replacement windows are coming in the future, but not for another year or two.

oh'mike 06-07-2013 07:41 PM

Going to need a picture---if the wood is rotting and puffing up the vinyl skin---you are in for some advanced cabinet work---the wood will need to be replaced.

Amateuralex 06-07-2013 08:22 PM

http://i871.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps76ad316a.jpg

It's not in great shape but its not rotted and swollen either.

oh'mike 06-08-2013 05:24 AM

Remove the sashes and see what's going on---the wood looks good--perhaps some regluing is all that is needed.

BigJim 06-08-2013 05:45 AM

It looks like the wood was stained before the window was assembled, if so it may be best to scrape some of the finish off where the glue can get a firm grip.

Windows on Wash 06-08-2013 06:09 AM

+1

Those windows are pretty straightforward when it comes to getting them out.

Before I invested a bunch of time and effort fixing them, I would check into and see what they have (Andersen) in terms of replacement parts with updated glass.

Amateuralex 06-08-2013 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Windows on Wash (Post 1197308)
+1

Those windows are pretty straightforward when it comes to getting them out.

Before I invested a bunch of time and effort fixing them, I would check into and see what they have (Andersen) in terms of replacement parts with updated glass.

Ah replacement sashes? I've read about this. Cheaper than replacement windows? I can hopefully get double pane energy efficient types? I called one local Anderson dealer and they were very coy. Special order, long lead time (several months), wouldn't give me a ballpark quote, wanted me to basically go through the entire order process first.

Maybe it's time to make some more calls? If replacement sashes were under $100 I could probably act swiftly, but the vibe I got was that they are a lot more than that.

wkearney99 06-08-2013 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Amateuralex (Post 1197359)
Ah replacement sashes? I've read about this. Cheaper than replacement windows? I can hopefully get double pane energy efficient types? I called one local Anderson dealer and they were very coy. Special order, long lead time (several months), wouldn't give me a ballpark quote, wanted me to basically go through the entire order process first.

Maybe it's time to make some more calls? If replacement sashes were under $100 I could probably act swiftly, but the vibe I got was that they are a lot more than that.

Yep, shop around. When I get someone that wants to put me through the whole process I usually tell them, either give me a ballpark to see if it's worth continuing or I'll go buy the whole deal elsewhere. Cut to the chase.

I'd still run the numbers elsewhere though.

Amateuralex 06-08-2013 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BigJim (Post 1197304)
It looks like the wood was stained before the window was assembled, if so it may be best to scrape some of the finish off where the glue can get a firm grip.

Now that you mention it, it sure does eh? That might explain why they are coming apart. That's just the kind of amateur crap I see all over this house lol.

mknasa dad 06-15-2013 10:00 PM

Call A/W and they can sell you new sash if thats the way you want to go. If your frames are in good condition, I would just get a conversion kit. It will basically make that DH window into a tilt wash DH. If you have grilles in the windows, they would not work with a conversion kit. Those Narroline DH windows are a pain in the sack to install if you don't know what you are doing, but the conversion kit is pretty user friendly for installation.

RWolff 06-16-2013 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Amateuralex (Post 1197377)
Now that you mention it, it sure does eh? That might explain why they are coming apart. That's just the kind of amateur crap I see all over this house lol.


Andersen windows are not exactly top of the line, neither is Crestline from my examinations of them at Menards, so it doesn't surprise me they are coming apart. I compared these with Pella on the shelf and the Pella windows were much better construction.
The Crestline widow I looked at was like $50 cheaper but it was made of part chipboard or plywood I forget now, stapled together and given white primer and just bare stacked on the shelf. The Pella window was solid lumber, joined well, and shipped to Menards in a shrink wrap/cardboard protector with extra corner protectors.

Most of the times going cheap by replacing just parts gets you substandard end results. The people who had my house before me replaced all the window sashes and used vinyl tracks, cheap junk then and cheaper junk later when the windows wouldn't stay up and were either loose or too tight to open.
I replaced all of the windows frames and all completely, I think doing any less is not going to be satisfactory, but if you plan to sell the house in 2-5 years it doesn't matter.


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