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Old 10-29-2012, 12:22 PM   #16
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+1 on the coil stock if it is uncoated on the back.

Many of the coil stocks are painted on both sides now. If that is the case, you should be fine.

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You would think so but that's not the case.
Try it and see what starts happening around where the nails go is. They act as a conductor, once it starts to fail the finish starts peeling off.
The boxes still say right on them not to do it.
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Coil nails are usually coated and stainless. I agree that its nota good idea but you can back caulk the trim and effectively glue it on.
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:10 PM   #19
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The outside opening is a lot smaller than the inside opening. There are wooden framing on the vertical sides, which is hidden by bricks, looking from outside. The new windows are screwed in to the frames. on both right and left sides with 3 nails on each sides. The manufacturer provided the 6 screws for each new window.

I have found some companys here that are willing to sell me bended aluminum. I need to put the bended aluminum wrapping on myself. Thus the question of nailing and caulking.

I am posting 3 pictures now: First two are my windows to be wrapped.Did I say that the contract started with one window on the top wrapping..?
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Here is a picture of a common wrapping work done to replacement windows in our area.
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There are 2x6s on top and on bottom of the replacement window, as the new windows are not as tall as the original ones. There is no wood on the either side, as there was only about 1/4-1/2inch on the sides, which was filled by the foam.

It was a horrific experience to have that contractor... and he disappeared...
Getting confusing, first you say there is no wood on the sides, know there's wood on the sides. Are you sure you do not mean there's extention jambs on the inside?
With windows that tight and no rough framing on the sides, I'm not seeing a way to trim it out.
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If I took a picture from inside, you will see that there is extra wooden frames on the vertical left/right side, to which the new windows screw into. From outside, the brick wall covers the wooden frames.

Hope this is more clear now...
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The differance between the way the other ones where done and the way your were done is when they did the other windows they left the wood trim and sill in place like there suppost to. Just the sashes were removed and replaced.
With your they removed everything leaving just a hole in the wall then tryed to use a replacement window to fill the hole, instead of a new constrution window with flat jambs.
Here's a video on how it should have been done, and the right style window.
http://www.ronhazelton.com/projects/...n_a_brick_wall
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The differance between the way the other ones where done and the way your were done is when they did the other windows they left the wood trim and sill in place like there suppost to. Just the sashes were removed and replaced.
With your they removed everything leaving just a hole in the wall then tryed to use a replacement window to fill the hole, instead of a new constrution window with flat jambs.
Here's a video on how it should have been done, and the right style window.
http://www.ronhazelton.com/projects/...n_a_brick_wall

The replacement windows came in not only with the sashes, but also with the frames though. Please see the pic below.
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And that's the way they should have looked, but your from the pictures I've seen do not look like that.
The old sashes and middle window deviders some out but the outside stop is left in place so the frame of the new window can be pushed up againt it with caulking around the outside of the window frame.
Yours looks like they just removed the entire window frame including the sill.
With replacement windows the sill is left in place.
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And that's the way they should have looked, but your from the pictures I've seen do not look like that.
The old sashes and middle window deviders some out but the outside stop is left in place so the frame of the new window can be pushed up againt it with caulking around the outside of the window frame.
Yours looks like they just removed the entire window frame including the sill.
With replacement windows the sill is left in place.

The replacement windows are shorter than the original. Even with the sills left in place, more wood need to fill in the gaps.

I am putting up more pics of similar situations: new replacement window is shorter than the original, so people added wood to fill in the gaps, and wrap everything with aluminum. The pic below is some replacement windows done in our area by Sears.
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Why wasn't a properly sized window installed?
I'm not crazy about what's been done here at all, but at this point to finish things off you'll cap the bottom and top, and probably just add a fat ugly bead of caulk on the sides. Other option would be to anchor a couple furring strips on the sides with tapcons, and those could then be wrapped.
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Why wasn't a properly sized window installed?
I'm not crazy about what's been done here at all, but at this point to finish things off you'll cap the bottom and top, and probably just add a fat ugly bead of caulk on the sides. Other option would be to anchor a couple furring strips on the sides with tapcons, and those could then be wrapped.
Exactly! just finish it off by capping. My original question was and still is:

1. Do I nail the capping on before I caulk around the seams? I don't see any nails on other similar jobs.

2. Do I need to use hydraulic cement to glue the capping aluminum to the wooden framing on the top and bottom?

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Exactly! just finish it off by capping. My original question was and still is:

1. Do I nail the capping on before I caulk around the seams? I don't see any nails on other similar jobs.
Pros typically hide the nails behind the caulk lines when possible. Yes, nail before caulk.

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2. Do I need to use hydraulic cement to glue the capping aluminum to the wooden framing on the top and bottom?

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