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Old 06-09-2014, 08:02 PM   #1
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NOrmally this would be a no brainer but.

Exterior steel over wood outswing door. Screws loose in jamb. Concrete block wall, Which has been furred out by what looks like 1 1/4" composite decking, both sides and top. By furred out I mean inside the opening, behind the jamb?

Over the composite decking is what looks like a 1X6X3/4" PVC board?? Both sides and top, used as jamb. Then 1X3X3/4" PVC added as door stop. Someone put a lot of time and effort into this and did a respectable job.

I am guessing on the jamb materials, not wood not metal??

The top hinge screws have come loose, causing the door to sag. I suspect this has been played with trying to fix.

Any thoughts on how to secure screws in what are now over sized holes. I am thinking tapcons, but may have been tried already?? Drilling and installing dowels. What material for dowels?? What kind of adhesive??

This is only the screws in the top hinge.

Any input greatly appreciated. JIm

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Hinge bound doors - Hinges bound on the door stop Hinge bound doors - Hinges not set deep enough
Make sure the door is not hinge bound. Then hammer a splinter of wood slightly bigger than hole and pre drill small hole for hinge screw and install hinge screws.

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Simple cheap thing to try is some tooth picks in the hole, no glue needed.
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Tooth picks, match sticks, hand drawn splinters, golf tee, plastic expansion anchors.
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Bud's answers are spot on.

They work like a champ.
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Because of all the plastic involved I did not think toothpicks/wood splinters was a good idea?

Besides this is at our clubhouse and I need to show up with some exotic cure, to make myself look good I was hoping for a lazer guided solvent welder or some such thing.

Thanks for the responses always greatly appreciated. JIm
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Because of all the plastic involved I did not think toothpicks/wood splinters was a good idea?

Besides this is at our clubhouse and I need to show up with some exotic cure, to make myself look good I was hoping for a lazer guided solvent welder or some such thing.

Thanks for the responses always greatly appreciated. JIm

Oh Hell!!!
Use some Elmer's Glue, drive a golf tee into the hole snugly, don't break nothing else in the process, drill a pilot hole slightly smaller than the screw's shank, re-install the screw, use a little Lock-Tite under the screw head, pray, done.

Do it when no one else is around, that way you can lie about it all you want to and no-one will really know.

That assembly sounds like some kind of an abortion to begin with, so I wouldn't look for any kind of exotic remedy in this case.
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It is an abortion, but well done. It is in a very exposed area of the building, This is Florida so lots of rain and humidity, termites, ants nothing that favors wood.

My first thought was drill and glue some dowels in. But what kind of adhesive for unknown plastics ??

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You did say in your OP it was a steel door and frame?Try some JB Weld and shim the door into place while it sets up.
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You did say in your OP it was a steel door and frame?Try some JB Weld and shim the door into place while it sets up.

O CRAP!!! That's right !!!
Hold-on, I may stand corrected.
Are the screws wood thread or machine thread?
I was thinking the screws had stripped out of the plastic.
If they are machine threads then that may be a different deal.
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If it is a steel jam, I would use next size bigger self drilling or self taping screws. I use to use then on commercial construction all the time.
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If it were steel I could weld it on during one of their functions, that would impress them

It is the jamb side of hinge that is loose, held into plastic with wood screws. I poked around Home Desperate they do not carry plastic screws

Unless someone comes up with better idea will try toothpicks. If that fails will join different club.
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If it were steel I could weld it on during one of their functions, that would impress them

It is the jamb side of hinge that is loose, held into plastic with wood screws. I poked around Home Desperate they do not carry plastic screws

Unless someone comes up with better idea will try toothpicks. If that fails will join different club.
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Okay, back to Plan A. Golf tees would be much better than toothpicks in this case. I can see you don't understand the high-tech procedures involved in completing this task.

Unless of course you guys want a new clubhouse...then...welding would be the thing to do. Just be sure you have all of the valuables removed from the structure before the fire department arrives because they have a reputation for making a helluva mess with their water.

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