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Old 12-31-2012, 08:45 AM   #31
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I've been installing windows well over 20 years, Silverline are junk ( very poor quality) and made for the homeowner who is only interested in something cheap and believe me, they also look cheap. Pella also make a cheaply made vinyl window called thermastar and thats just as bad; same with excalibur from alside. these windows are known to warp and also leak air. i could never in good conscience install any of those brands and ruin my reputation.
I suggest you look at some of the higher end Vinyl windows. these windows have some of the best Performance ratings in the industry, in fact they beat out the performance of a wood window both structurally and from an energy efficiency stand point. they also are built extremely well and look very nice.
some of these higher end brands are as follows: Okna , Soft Lite, HiMark, Gorell, and Sunrise.
do not take the cheap way out, you will not only wind up doing the job twice but you will be also detracting from the look of your home. silverline For for house flippers and rental properties owners and is the window of choice by the local " jack of all trades contractor" who comes in at the cheapest price.


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Old 02-01-2013, 11:27 PM   #32
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I've been installing windows well over 20 years, Silverline are junk ( very poor quality) and made for the homeowner who is only interested in something cheap and believe me, they also look cheap. Pella also make a cheaply made vinyl window called thermastar and thats just as bad; same with excalibur from alside. these windows are known to warp and also leak air. i could never in good conscience install any of those brands and ruin my reputation.
I suggest you look at some of the higher end Vinyl windows. these windows have some of the best Performance ratings in the industry, in fact they beat out the performance of a wood window both structurally and from an energy efficiency stand point. they also are built extremely well and look very nice.
some of these higher end brands are as follows: Okna , Soft Lite, HiMark, Gorell, and Sunrise.
do not take the cheap way out, you will not only wind up doing the job twice but you will be also detracting from the look of your home. silverline For for house flippers and rental properties owners and is the window of choice by the local " jack of all trades contractor" who comes in at the cheapest price.
Silverline has several different lines, and some are more cheaply made[& cheaper] than the other lines. Just like any other window company. I've been a window service tech for going on 12 years now, and I put Silverline inserts in my house when the time came to replace a couple old ones. Sure-I went with the top series Silverline offered, but don't act like Silverline as a whole is junk.
In retrospect-I wish Andersen's 100 Series would've been available at the time, and that's what I'll be looking at when it comes time to do some more.
Be careful about blanket statements-vinyl windows over the long haul by and large do not hold up as well as wood windows either, particularly in climates that experience a lot of bitter cold.
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Be careful about blanket statements-vinyl windows over the long haul by and large do not hold up as well as wood windows either, particularly in climates that experience a lot of bitter cold.
I sell both wood and vinyl windows (composites as well) and each has their pros and cons to be sure, but saying that vinyl does not hold up as well as wood is bad info. I replace "high-end" wood windows that are 10, 12, 15 years old on a regular basis. CAN wood windows last 25 or 30 yrs, absolutely (and a premium vinyl will as well), but they are not the best choice for many folks that don't have the time or desire to maintain them.
At the end of the day, a vinyl window will not match the beauty or richness of a wood window, but a wood window won't match the performance or low maintenance of vinyl.... Each material can be the right or wrong choice depending on the circumstances.
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Yes Marvin windows are great. I would call a local glass company in the phone book and have them give a bid. Some glass company's have pretty sweet replacement windows even offering the triple pane.........The guys years ago use to like simenton 5500 i don't know if this is the case anymore.
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i totally agree with homesealed, one thing that factors the most in the longevity of any product is the install itsself. i dont know how many expensive windows ive replaced that werent properly sealed thus causing them to leak and rot.. same goes for cheap windows.. if its properly flashed then maintained it can last a long time

the other thing is.. same goes for the installer,, it sickens me when i see old timers braging that they`ve been doing something for 20-30 years so therefore their way is right.. how long youve been doing something has no effect on the end product if its never been done right in the first place or extra measures to ensure a quality install

as for the original topic.. why is a 2 year old thread still active

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I have all anderson windows in my 35 year old house they are just starting to fog one by one. Pretty good a window can last 35 years. I was calling around today for prices I replacing the glass in the patio doors. 76 x 36. It seems to make more sense to just replace the whole assembly.
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Some guys commenting why this old thread is still active.....
lots of good info in this old thread for a "newbie" like me, who wasn't around 2 years ago.

Didn't see any mention of Weathershield, Hurd, or Semco windows. These windows are all made in my local area. (must not be any good(
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I sell both wood and vinyl windows (composites as well) and each has their pros and cons to be sure, but saying that vinyl does not hold up as well as wood is bad info. I replace "high-end" wood windows that are 10, 12, 15 years old on a regular basis. CAN wood windows last 25 or 30 yrs, absolutely (and a premium vinyl will as well), but they are not the best choice for many folks that don't have the time or desire to maintain them.
At the end of the day, a vinyl window will not match the beauty or richness of a wood window, but a wood window won't match the performance or low maintenance of vinyl.... Each material can be the right or wrong choice depending on the circumstances.
You can have that opinion. However, I've never seen a vinyl window hold up and still be in what a homeowner would call excellent condition after 30 years. But I do see, for example, Andersen windows from the 70s that no one would think of replacing. Like I said-I put Silverline vinyls in my house a while ago-but I'm under no illusion that they'll be there for 30 years. I currently have brand-new VinylMax in the majority of openings in my house now. But again-I'm under no illusion they'll be there for 30 years. But it's obvious I'm not a vinyl window hater.
If you look at the one Andersen double casement I have above the kitchen sink ca 1954-it's still there and operating and not in terrible shape.
If you find vinyls that last that long and still look great-kudos to you.
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Its really not an opinion. Performance ratings don't lie.
On the longevity issue, what on a wood window will outlast a vinyl window? Glass? Balance systems? Weatherstripping? Fasteners? ... Those are all the same parts regardless of the core material, so you could only be saying that wood frame components will outlast vinyl. Since wood is organic (rots) and vinyl is not, that simply cannot be true assuming that the quality level of materials and assembly is equal. The problem that vinyl has, is that there are SOOOO many manufacturers and most of them make garbage, that it taints the reputation of the material undeservedly so. The only real downfall of a premium vinyl window is that it cannot match the look and feel of wood.
I acknowledge your comment about your 1950's wood windows, and I'll take it a step further and say that I've seen 100+ year old wood windows that are in great shape (and for the record, I generally recommend high quality storm windows in those cases). Unfortunately, as they say , "They just don't make 'em like they used to". This is what we get after 10-15 years or so from today's wood windows in many cases:

Much of that can be attributed to inferior wood, and our tightly sealed homes are another culprit.
I had 25 year old mechanically fastened vinyl windows in a previous home that worked great, and I regularly see 10+ year old vinyl that nobody could know that they weren't installed one year ago... and again, I'm sure that I'm coming across as a "wood hater", but I'm not. My whole point is that each material has pros and cons, and a blanket statement that vinyl does not hold up as long as wood is just flat out incorrect.
All that said, your probably correct is assuming that THOSE products that you used in your own home won't make 30 yrs. LOL

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