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SM05 11-26-2012 11:28 PM

Front door threshold
 
Hi guys,

My front door project continues... :) Having hard time finding a matching threshold for the front door. It's 3 3/4" wide x 3/4" tall and about 30" long. All I've seen while looking around goes up to 3 1/2" wide top.

Any suggestions as to where I might be able to find something matching in size (width/height)?

Thanks so much!

joecaption 11-26-2012 11:55 PM

What's wrong with the one that's there now?
Whats it made of?
Got a picture?

SM05 11-27-2012 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1061373)
What's wrong with the one that's there now?
Whats it made of?
Got a picture?

It's got a crack going from the exterior side toward the door at about 45 degree. Don't think it's cracked all the way through but I'm guessing it lets some air in, seeing that it's been nailed originally.

It's wood of some sort (oak?). Picture's attached. The top beveled part there is the exterior exposed part painted black to match door sill color. The crack starts just above the center of the painted area going to the left and down.

Thanks.

spotco2 11-28-2012 01:01 AM

If it's all wood, then it can be repaired or rebuilt. If all you have is a crack, then you should be able to just glue it back together. If you have voids you can fill them with wood flour or a filler made of sawdust and glue.

You're not going to find anything in current production that is going to look like what you already have. Things were made a lot different back then than they are now days.

SM05 11-28-2012 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by spotco2 (Post 1062114)
If it's all wood, then it can be repaired or rebuilt. If all you have is a crack, then you should be able to just glue it back together. If you have voids you can fill them with wood flour or a filler made of sawdust and glue.

You're not going to find anything in current production that is going to look like what you already have. Things were made a lot different back then than they are now days.

Looks like it's nailed to the door sill and had split because of that. I do like the repairing it approach. I'm also thinking about predrilling a hole and driving a screw to keep the loose peace in place. I could then fill in the crack void, sand, paint to match or stain if need be.

I'll be honest with you, I'm not sure what wood flour or a sawdust filler is. Would something like this
DAP Natural Plastic Wood Solvent Wood Filler
or this
PC-Woody Wood Epoxy Paste
work?

Thanks so much for taking time to reply.

oh'mike 11-29-2012 06:36 AM

A picture from further back could have helped more----

You will need to make that---or hire someone to do it for you---

White oak will be needed for an exterior thresh---red oak hates water and will discolor--then curl--and quickly rot---

Wood exterior thresholds are rare now a days----I'll bet the ones you are finding are for interior work and are red oak-----------

SM05 12-05-2012 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 1062842)
A picture from further back could have helped more----

New picture's attached.

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 1062842)
You will need to make that---or hire someone to do it for you---

White oak will be needed for an exterior thresh---red oak hates water and will discolor--then curl--and quickly rot---

Wood exterior thresholds are rare now a days----I'll bet the ones you are finding are for interior work and are red oak-----------

Didn't even occur to me that what's sold at the hardware stores may not be applicable in this case. Thanks, learn something new every day! I'll probably just do repair in the mean time. At least I'll be able to select the right type of wood for the project if I go replacement route. Thanks again.

joecaption 12-06-2012 12:44 AM

http://www.mdteam.com/index.php/prod...ood-thresholds

Ever notice all the air coming in from under that door?

When I come across old door's like that I remove the old threshold and install a new adjustable threshold, cut the door shorter and add a seal that mounts to the bottom of the door with screws in the inside and outside of the door.
The seals I use even have a little rain cap on the outside to direct water away from the threshold.

spotco2 12-08-2012 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SM05 (Post 1062742)
I'll be honest with you, I'm not sure what wood flour or a sawdust filler is. Would something like this
DAP Natural Plastic Wood Solvent Wood Filler
or this
PC-Woody Wood Epoxy Paste
work?

Wood flour and saw dust filler is simple and easy to make. Basically you take a piece of the same kind of wood, sand the snot out of it and use the sanding dust mixed with wood glue to create a filler that blends easily with the surrounding wood. Once it is sanded and stained it becomes practically invisible.

A lot of fillers will shrink over time and do not accept stain at the same rate or color as the surrounding wood.

SM05 12-16-2012 01:29 PM

Sorry for a late reply...

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Originally Posted by spotco2 (Post 1068716)
Wood flour and saw dust filler is simple and easy to make. Basically you take a piece of the same kind of wood, sand the snot out of it and use the sanding dust mixed with wood glue to create a filler that blends easily with the surrounding wood. Once it is sanded and stained it becomes practically invisible.

A lot of fillers will shrink over time and do not accept stain at the same rate or color as the surrounding wood.

Thanks for the tips. I'll definitely keep that in mind. You're right about filler taking stain color differently. I had a hard time matching stain color when filling holes from the squeaky floor repair project.

SM05 12-19-2012 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1067348)
http://www.mdteam.com/index.php/prod...ood-thresholds

Ever notice all the air coming in from under that door?

When I come across old door's like that I remove the old threshold and install a new adjustable threshold, cut the door shorter and add a seal that mounts to the bottom of the door with screws in the inside and outside of the door.
The seals I use even have a little rain cap on the outside to direct water away from the threshold.

Yes, I have actually. Thanks. Based on earlier replies I think I'm gonna try keeping the original threshold for now. I'm thinking about adding a door sweep though. I've got about 3/4" gap to play with so any suggestions on what might work the best in this case would be appreciated. Thanks again.

Edit: thinking about getting this door sweep so that I can paint it black to match:
M-D 06411


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