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Freakaloin 01-29-2013 07:48 AM

French door install slightly off...
 
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Everything is perfect with this door install except the active door needs to be closed a little hard for it to latch. Also the knob pops a little when released whiling opening. What needs to be adjusted? Move the entire active door jam in or out? So close!

BigJim 01-29-2013 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Freakaloin (Post 1104747)
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Everything is perfect with this door install except the active door needs to be closed a little hard for it to latch. Also the knob pops a little when released whiling opening. What needs to be adjusted? Move the entire active door jam in or out? So close!

As long as the door isn't dragging it should be good, usually it is pushing the seal that makes it hard, if it is, that is a good thing because you know it is keeping the weather out and your warm air in.

joecaption 01-29-2013 09:46 AM

You did install a sill pan or at least flash under the threshold, up the jambs, and behind the siding, right?
One of the most common mistakes builders and DIY's alike make is skiping this one simple step and can cause 1000's of dollars in damage to the home.
And no some silicone under it will not keep the water out?
Is the outside of that threshold where it over hangs the sheathing fully supported? If not it will twist it and cause the seal to break on the outside edges.

oh'mike 01-29-2013 10:07 AM

Put your level on the left and right jams and see it they match--exactly----if not---that's your problem---

some french doors have adjustable hinges for fine tuning---you just might get lucky there---

joecaption 01-29-2013 10:14 AM

Also just look at the exposures at the top of the door and along the area where the two doors meet. They should all be even.
You did use the 3" long supplyed screws in the hindges right?
If the doors off sometimes simply playing with those screws can fine tune the door.

Freakaloin 01-29-2013 10:31 AM

I installed a sill pan. I haven't flashed around door yet but the siding isn't up yet. Everything is plumb and square and straight. The bottom hinge on the inactive door came from the factory a little out of the inlay but I doubt that's it. I'll adjust the hinges first and see if that helps. There's a second set of French doors next to this one btw. It closes easier. It's a minor issue but it bugs me. Seems these French doors installed without a need for shimming...weird. I had to shim the crap out of the single door I installed on other side of room...

Freakaloin 01-29-2013 10:39 AM

Also...do I need to put a drip cap on this or something?
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joecaption 01-29-2013 10:44 AM

Swing around and take another picture facing the door.
Is there a nailing flange on the door?
Who cut the sheathing back like that?:eek:

BigJim 01-29-2013 10:51 AM

With that much overhang you shouldn't have to have a drip cap or flashing but if it were mine I would install one anyway, just to be doubly sure.

Freakaloin 01-29-2013 10:58 AM

I know. I forgot to leave a little excess with the felt. I also had a larger than expected gap above door and added a 1x4(after I sheathed). Gap is still rather large :(

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joecaption 01-29-2013 11:20 AM

Is the jamb on the door at least even with the face of the sheathing?
Make sure to at least use vinyl brick mould on the outside to prevent any rot.
I do see one huge issue, that patio never should have been pored that high.
Now there's sure to be water getting in under that threshold and would not be surprized if there was not already some wall, bottom plate damage, or rim joist damage.
Code calls for sheathing and thresholds to be no closer then 4" to grade.
If there's room enough I'd try and slide in some coil stock or flashing between the slab and the wall.

That door needed to flashed something like this or there's going to be some problums later on.
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oh'mike 01-29-2013 11:28 AM

Just so you don't feel to bad---French doors---really any double door---are a big challenge even for a very experienced installer-----and those doors don't look like ones with the fancy adjustable hinges that allow for some play in the install---

Freakaloin 01-29-2013 11:37 AM

This is an old half converted car port. Water was an issue and I had to replace the base plates to the wall because the were rotten. I added a gutter and replaced flat roof. If needed I will smash that concrete out!

oh'mike 01-29-2013 11:47 AM

Cutting in a channel drain in front of the doors might actually be something to do------

HomeSealed 01-29-2013 04:56 PM

Simple check (as Joe alluded to) is to check the reveals and make sure that the slabs sit flush with each other and the jambs. That will give you a great idea of whether or not everything is plumb and level. If it is, you can putz around with little things here and there to make it operate more smoothly, but you'll have your work cut out for you because it could very well be a "loose" factory assembly, or some component slightly out of spec. You didn't mention what type of door it was, but this is often the case with cheaper doors. Even high-grade french door units can be VERY finicky to install.


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