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Old 02-08-2013, 10:27 PM   #16
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Fins59 -All the films, plastic, fancy gas and storm windows do nothing to stop the radiant heat loss at night in the winter (like Wausau has). A barrier that cuts off the radiant heat loss does wonders at night.

Even a ugly sheet or drapes(semi ugly) does wonders on heat loss works well. I have 2 - 7'+ sliders facing north in MN and I have aluminum mini-blinds on each one of them and close them from almost clear (bird watching is my hobbies) to go to the shut/closed position from the open position and the temperature inside goes up at night (thermostat is one floor above) and the cats sleep on the floor at night in a walk-out.

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Old 02-08-2013, 11:11 PM   #17
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gregzoll - I live in the Wausau area, center of state, a little bit north.
I would not call that Center. More like Northern part of the state. Go through there all of the time, when we head up to Land O'Lakes, where my In laws live.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:22 PM   #18
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Got one window done. Just spent probably an hour telling how I did it and when hitting "submit reply", I get a msg saying I'm not logged in, not authorized, etc. and lose my entire post. frustrating.
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Fins59 -All the films, plastic, fancy gas and storm windows do nothing to stop the radiant heat loss at night in the winter (like Wausau has). A barrier that cuts off the radiant heat loss does wonders at night.

Even a ugly sheet or drapes(semi ugly) does wonders on heat loss works well. I have 2 - 7'+ sliders facing north in MN and I have aluminum mini-blinds on each one of them and close them from almost clear (bird watching is my hobbies) to go to the shut/closed position from the open position and the temperature inside goes up at night (thermostat is one floor above) and the cats sleep on the floor at night in a walk-out.

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I hear ya, Dick. Like I posted above, I think I got it solved.
Speak about bird watching. I recently built 6 bird feeders. Gave some to my kids. Going to make about 10 more.
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Happens if you have a third party software that purges cookies, or the cookie prematurely dies. Some compose their messages in Wordpad, or even something like Open Office or Microsoft office, then past it into a post.

Also, you can cross post over to Project showcase on something like this, especially if you are going to make a diary of redoing the house. Right now I am help a friend of ours with some projects, due to her boyfriend bailed on her for more than I want to get into. I figured, that since I am holding off on our Kitchen, and have nothing that I can do, until I get the cabinets, I figured that I would work on her place, helping her out.

What you learn from doing on your own, you can assist others locally or even from afar, especially with this place.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:42 PM   #21
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Going to try again. Maybe previous post was too long?? Will try and shorten this one up.
Anyway, am sitting here drinking a cold one in celebration. Got one window done. New channels all around. Cost - about $4.

This is what I did:

Side Channels - Used Vinyl siding J-channel. Cut 2 pieces to proper length. Trimmed off rounded edge and nail fin edge, and ended up with a perfect U channel. Trimmed lower inside of pieces to permit lower window to be removed (used old pieces as pattern)

Top Channel - Found that a piece of dry wall vinyl channel is perfect.

Lower Channel - This was tricky, but found that a piece of molding from those suspended ceiling panels works perfect. A little trimming on one edge was required.

Attached new channels to wooden frame with 1" small nails with a slight head. Trimmed and cut channels with my trusty cheapo HF oscillating tool, and used band saw a little. Clamped J-channel in my Rockwell Jaw Horse for easy trimming. Had time to sand and give wooden frame 2 coats of primer. Put window back in tonight. Can't feel any drafts. I'm a 24/7 wood burner so a little outside air doesn't hurt, probably helps.
Gotta get some before and after pics on here....this really worked slick.
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Happens if you have a third party software that purges cookies, or the cookie prematurely dies. Some compose their messages in Wordpad, or even something like Open Office or Microsoft office, then past it into a post.

Also, you can cross post over to Project showcase on something like this, especially if you are going to make a diary of redoing the house. Right now I am help a friend of ours with some projects, due to her boyfriend bailed on her for more than I want to get into. I figured, that since I am holding off on our Kitchen, and have nothing that I can do, until I get the cabinets, I figured that I would work on her place, helping her out.

What you learn from doing on your own, you can assist others locally or even from afar, especially with this place.
I see it worked this time.

third party software - purges cookies - cookie dies - wordpad - Thats all greek to me Greg But I'm trying.
Speaking of kitchen remodeling.....just last night my wife was talking about me taking out the wall between the kitchen and dining room, to make it a more open concept. It's non-load bearing, gotta move some electrical and stuff but doesn't look too bad.

Pretty country up around Land-o-Lakes. I used to have a FedEx route up there kind of close - I did Arbor Vitae, Manitowish Waters, Mercer, Winchester, Presque Isle, Boulder Junction. Based out of Wausau, left Wausau about 9AM, did all that area, and had to be back in Wausau by 6:45PM to catch aircraft with outgoing freight. Loved it.
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You and ShumakerScott need to get together. He has done stuff like you just did, to do things in his place http://www.diychatroom.com/f49/germa...3424-new-post/ that you would never think of doing with some of the materials like you used.
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You and ShumakerScott need to get together. He has done stuff like you just did, to do things in his place http://www.diychatroom.com/f49/germa...3424-new-post/ that you would never think of doing with some of the materials like you used.
I'll check him out.
What kind of gave me the idea of J-channel is I used other vinyl siding stuff in past. Like I used "under sill trim" for framing around a acrylic glass pane that I used in a garden shed. That acrylic (or plexi-glass) tucks tightly into that under sill trim. Just trim off the nailing fin, miter corners, and you have a nice vinyl frame.
Also one time my wife brought home some item she paid around $10-$15 bucks for. It is used to put under your sofa cushions for support if you feel they are saggy or soft. This item looked just like vinyl siding. I had her take them back and I took a few scrap pieces of siding I had left over (I don't throw anything away) cut them to proper size, snapped them together and put them under seat cushions and they work same as that store product.
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The stuff under the sofa cushions, actually reminds me of the skirting for around trailers. Just a heavier grade than what you see around most of them.
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gregzoll -

I just think of Wausau as the center of the state since all my relatives live north of there and I go straight east through there to Green Bush.

The thread by Scott Shumaker is a great one to follow going from a 300 year old burned out or rotted home into modern one with all of the high tech DIY things and material is great. It is good blend of the old with the new. - I sent him some wine corks and beer bottle caps to use in the new second story man-cave. Beware it will take you a long time (hours) to follow the thread and see the photos.

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Fins59 -All the films, plastic, fancy gas and storm windows do nothing to stop the radiant heat loss at night in the winter (like Wausau has). A barrier that cuts off the radiant heat loss does wonders at night.

Low emissivity or LowE coatings were developed to block radiant heat loss (or gain - depending on the coating), and they do it very well.

Dual or triple silver softcoats, for example, block over 95% of radiant heat loss while single silver softcoat and the better hardcoats block over 90% of radiant heat loss at 70 indoor versus 0 outdoor temperatures.

You are absolutely correct that a barrier that cuts off radiant heat loss at night does wonders for keeping a home warmer.
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gregzoll -

I just think of Wausau as the center of the state since all my relatives live north of there and I go straight east through there to Green Bush.

The thread by Scott Shumaker is a great one to follow going from a 300 year old burned out or rotted home into modern one with all of the high tech DIY things and material is great. It is good blend of the old with the new. - I sent him some wine corks and beer bottle caps to use in the new second story man-cave. Beware it will take you a long time (hours) to follow the thread and see the photos.

Dick
I think Wausau is referred to as North Central Wisconsin by the media. I don't really think of it as North because we all go "Up North" on vacations or weekends. In my mind Tomahawk is kind of the starting point for North. I had to google Green Bush. Have never heard of it before.

I started reading Scott Shumaker thread. wow. I just completed a 30'x48' detached garage by myself (had help with concrete slab and trusses) and thought I accomplished something, but his project is, I guess you'd call amazing.
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+1 to oberon's post. Well said.

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