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sore thumb 08-04-2013 06:43 PM

EnergyCore Windows
 
Anyone have experience with EnergyCore windows?

HomeSealed 08-06-2013 10:04 AM

If you are referring to the product by MI (Metal Industries), I would say that it is a big step in the right direction for a company that is know for it "price-point", builder grade windows. The U-values are getting down there with some of the better windows available, however the pocket sill design is a major downside IMO, and I'd also like to see how it fares in terms of quality control over a longer period of time.

TreverS 08-20-2013 11:40 AM

EnergyCore windows are fantastic if you're looking for high efficiency and eco-friendly. They increase efficiency by up to 50% and are 100% recyclable.

sore thumb 08-20-2013 12:21 PM

During the afternoon the two EngeryCore windows will face the blazing western sun. Eventually hope to switch out the remaining thirteen windows to EnergyCore. Nothing standing in the way except $$$$$. :)

Windows on Wash 08-20-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TreverS (Post 1231816)
EnergyCore windows are fantastic if you're looking for high efficiency and eco-friendly. They increase efficiency by up to 50% and are 100% recyclable.


Seriously....:laughing:

sore thumb 08-20-2013 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Windows on Wash (Post 1231884)
Seriously....:laughing:

Please explain in detail since we are about to have EnergyCore windows installed.

Thank you.

Windows on Wash 08-20-2013 09:20 PM

Anyone thinking their windows are going to increase their energy efficiency by 50% and that they are recyclable is high on glue.

Sorry.

sore thumb 08-20-2013 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Windows on Wash (Post 1232066)
Anyone thinking their windows are going to increase their energy efficiency by 50% and that they are recyclable is high on glue.

Sorry.

Respectfully sir, you may want to read up on EngeryCore's Technolgy before bashing. Other window manufacturers with triple pane also advertise 50% efficiency gain as compared to single pane.

http://www.energycore-windows.com/

Windows on Wash 08-21-2013 12:08 AM

I appreciate the link but I don't need to read it.

Without qualifying his/her statement, it is bunk.

He/she did not state that net and improvement in energy efficiency, as a comparative to single pane, merely that it would "increase efficiency by up to 50%".

Without book-ending that statement with more details and what you are making the comparison to, its BS.

By comparison, I can get a triple pane window that is 1200% more efficient. What value, if any, does that do the readers without the proper factual support or data to go with it.

If you state that a vinyl window is 100% recyclable, you also loose credibility with me because you have zero intention of fulfilling that promise. Is PVC recyclable? Yes. Is it cost prohibitive and large ineffective and therefore never done when it comes to window...also yes.

There are far to many variables in the different grinds of vinyl windows for recyclers to effectively process them.

Facts are stubborn things in these cases.

I also can't find the Energy Core (MI window) listed with a U-Factor of 0.15.

sore thumb 08-21-2013 07:27 AM

While I appreciate the information the fact is I've already ordered two of these windows. I have as much or more faith in them as I would any window on the market. We all know product promotion has some percentage of bleeding edge technology advertising. Such is life in the consumer world.

Regards, truly.

Windows on Wash 08-21-2013 09:31 AM

My comment was never aimed at your purchase decision and if it is a good window to you and a good install, I would actually recommend staying with that window.

My comment was directed at the previous posters poor factual "data".

HomeSealed 08-21-2013 12:43 PM

I would strongly support Window's on Washington's comments. 50% energy savings is not going to happen, and in fact there have been several instances of various manufacturers and window dealers that have been fined by the FTC and/or state agencies for such deceptive advertising practices. We have done projects including windows, doors, and insulation and airsealing throughout the attic, sidewalls, and foundation, and test data shows that we are lucky if we approach anywhere near 50% in energy savings on the entire project. The person that made that statement above would appear to be someone representing the product in question, and unfortunately not very honorable in doing so.

To elaborate on the product, I do not agree with the statement "I have as much or more faith in them as I would any window on the market."
There are products that have better thermal and structural performance ratings, FAR better reputations for quality, and that do not utilize a pocket/capture sill design which is an inherent design flaw IMO. I have personally seen such designs overflow and/or crack causing leakage into the wall and significant damage.
I apologize if that comes across as harsh sore thumb, I just wanted to add some perspective for others that may be shopping for windows. Ultimately, it is definitely not the worst product on the market, but also not the best and comes with some added risk. I do hope that it delivers a long and problem-free service life for you.

sore thumb 08-23-2013 12:48 AM

Our EngeryCore windows are manufactured by American Window Sytems in Texas not Metal Industries.

Windows on Wash 08-23-2013 07:14 AM

That is not correct.

Your windows may have been sold or installed by the company you reference but MI is the manufacturer.

http://search.nfrc.org/search/cpd/cp...dnum=MEI-A-176

sore thumb 08-23-2013 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windows on Wash (Post 1233074)
That is not correct.

Your windows may have been sold or installed by the company you reference but MI is the manufacturer.

http://search.nfrc.org/search/cpd/cp...dnum=MEI-A-176

Thank you for your reply.

The windows we have on order are triple pane double sliders.
Our Enery Core windows are manufactured in Texas by American Windows. American Windows are listed on the nfrc.org as A Window, Inc.

To conclude our discussion let us agree to disagree.


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