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Old 07-06-2014, 02:49 PM   #1
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We are renovating our garage into living space, including a new bedroom.

The existing window in the new bedroom is currently double hung, vinyl. Both the lower and the upper sashes can be removed.

If both sashes are removed, there is a clear opening 27" wide and 33" tall and starts 35" above the floor.

So, with the sashes removed, this would meet the 5 square foot, ground floor requirement.

The question is, would having to remove both sashes be considered too time consuming or cumbersome?

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I believe most/all BO's are going to expect clear opening space with the windows natural operating system.

Otherwise, you could pop windows out of sliders etc. I have had BO's question the clear opening of a casement window frame blocking the clear opening when swung out.

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I believe most/all BO's are going to expect clear opening space with the windows natural operating system.

Otherwise, you could pop windows out of sliders etc. I have had BO's question the clear opening of a casement window frame blocking the clear opening when swung out.
Thanks for commenting.

By natural operating system do you mean without having to remove the sashes?
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The replies you are getting are correct.

I imagine over 90% of people could not remove the sashes on a slider or double hung in any amount of time. I wonder how many would be smart enough to get out with the screen in place?

As for the exterior entrance, an axe or wrecking bar will open up a casement, double hung, or slider equally well.
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The next step then would be to replace the double hung with a casement.

You said even these can run into trouble.

Are there particular parts on a casement that, if present, will show that the casement can be swung out at least 90 degrees quickly and would be more-or-less fool proof to operate in an emergency?
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John W -

How is a 5 year old able to remove the sashes?

there are two main points for egress windows -

1) The maximum height of the sill must be the correct amount above the finished floor. This is usually 42" to 44", but there could be changed from the minimum standard by local authorities. In our area, we have the largest population of Hmongs (short in stature only) and there was a proposal to change the minimum allowable open sill height to 40" in the interest in life safety. - This is just an installation situation and existing installations are grandfathered.

2) The window itself is usually available and has a manufacturers certificate on it that really should be kept as long a possible to avoid any questions. The standards for the window units are determined by building officials, fire department representatives and insurance companies and the always present public groups. - This addresses the consensus for exiting residents (young and old) and to allow fire fighting with the usually hardware (hats,visors, tanks) necessary. The window must provide access without tools to remove parts (hinges, stops and casement operators).

If you have a particular situation on a remodel, it is best to get an opinion from a building official since they do not want any problems. - Fortunately, the inspection departments are not a profit that makes money from problems that raise their costs.

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Everybody else nailed it. Needs to be normal operation of the windows.
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Everybody else nailed it. Needs to be normal operation of the windows.
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There are also a number of different egress windows where the sash swings completely open, so a smaller window still meets the requirements Here's an example of a small "double hung" that meets egress requirements:

http://www.redi-exit.com/egress-wind...wing-p-51.html
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By all means NO. It must be cordless in the event the AC power has failed. Battery dead as always? Tuff luck.
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There are also a number of different egress windows where the sash swings completely open, so a smaller window still meets the requirements Here's an example of a small "double hung" that meets egress requirements:

http://www.redi-exit.com/egress-wind...wing-p-51.html
Thanks very much.

I was hoping to get manufacturer make/model info like this.

Hopefully they make a window that will fit my opening.
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There are also a number of different egress windows where the sash swings completely open, so a smaller window still meets the requirements Here's an example of a small "double hung" that meets egress requirements:

http://www.redi-exit.com/egress-wind...wing-p-51.html
Jo.... Interesting.... never seen/knew of....good to know.
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When I was building houses back in the 90's, if I remember correctly, double hung windows needed 5.7 square feet of net opening, and a casement in addition had to have a net width opening of 20". Manufacturers were starting to offer egress hardware on casements that would move the pivot point of the sash over to the side as it opened. Andersen use to have all the specs in the catalog and online site. Shouldn't be hard to find.
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When I was building houses back in the 90's, if I remember correctly, double hung windows needed 5.7 square feet of net opening, and a casement in addition had to have a net width opening of 20". Manufacturers were starting to offer egress hardware on casements that would move the pivot point of the sash over to the side as it opened. Andersen use to have all the specs in the catalog and online site. Shouldn't be hard to find.
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