Door Threshold Question?????? - Windows and Doors - DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum


Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Windows and Doors

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-20-2011, 11:55 AM   #1
Member
 
Lightfoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ky
Posts: 412
Rewards Points: 252
Default

door threshold question??????


We recently had wood flooring installed in a house we bought for rental. The oak flooring (3/4 thick) looks great, but the inside floor now stands about 1/4 inch above the the bottom aluminum plate where the rubber weatherstrip is, that is supposed to seal against the bottom of the door. We actually had to trim about 3/8 inch off the bottom of the door so it wouldn't drag the floor on the inside. If it makes any difference, The house was built in the early 70's and the bottom aluminum plate (with the weatherstrip) sits right on top of the concrete ledge leading to the small front porch. I'm sure i'm not the first one to run into this situation, so tell me what's available and what i need to be looking for to correct the sealing issue. Or is there something i need to do in order to raise the existing plate?

thanks in advance

Advertisement

Lightfoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2011, 12:07 PM   #2
Tileguy
 
Bud Cline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 10,488
Rewards Points: 2,624
Default

door threshold question??????


A photo may be helpful.

Some of those threshholds have an adjustable weather seal that can be raised a little.

Is there now a gap under the door?

Advertisement

Bud Cline is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2011, 12:17 PM   #3
Member
 
Lightfoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ky
Posts: 412
Rewards Points: 252
Default

door threshold question??????


Quote:
Originally Posted by Bud Cline View Post
A photo may be helpful.

Some of those threshholds have an adjustable weather seal that can be raised a little.

Is there now a gap under the door?
I won't be at the house for a couple of days Bud, but i'll get some pix then. This one is fixed, no adjustments there-i think it's probably original but in really good shape still since there is also a storm door on it. It has a rounded soft rubber strip that runs the entire width of the aluminum threshold. Yes, there is now a gap between the door and the threshold, actually the wood flooring is now just barely above the level of the weatherstrip, and we had to trim the door to clear the flooring. You can see a little daylight at the bottom of the door.
Lightfoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2011, 12:26 PM   #4
Tileguy
 
Bud Cline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 10,488
Rewards Points: 2,624
Default

door threshold question??????


OH boy!

That's not good.

How about raising the entire door assembly? Does the thought of that scare you?
Bud Cline is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2011, 12:39 PM   #5
Member
 
Lightfoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ky
Posts: 412
Rewards Points: 252
Default

door threshold question??????


Bud, well that thought doesn't scare me, but it doesn't thrill me either

I was hoping for a little simpler fix, even if i have to fabricate something out of aluminum in the shop to go under the bottom plate to raise it. I'm thinking around a 1/4 inch (give or take) is all i need and was hoping there was something out there already that others have used to fix the same problem. I know i'm special, but i can't be the only one that's run in to this
Lightfoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2011, 01:40 PM   #6
Tileguy
 
Bud Cline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 10,488
Rewards Points: 2,624
Default

door threshold question??????


Typically the threshold plates are made to the bottom of the jamb-sides and there wouldn't be any way I know of to raise just the plate. But not positive in this case.

Generally when an adjustable threshold runs out of adjustment one can still add a "drag strip" of sorts to the bottom of the door to take up the gap. But since the door had to be cut off to clear the flooring a drag strip isn't the answer either.

There isn't usually too much to a door installation and I have been able to raise many of them by removing the casings and cutting the existing fasteners and raising the entire unit all at one time. This isn't always possible if brick or some types of sidings are involved on the outside. Usually the interior is the least of the problem.

There should be a small space above the door that should (should) allow it to be raised. If not, the header above the door can be altered in most cases.

Just sayin!!!

Not being there to see it is somewhat of a handicap.
Bud Cline is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2011, 02:00 PM   #7
Member
 
Lightfoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ky
Posts: 412
Rewards Points: 252
Default

door threshold question??????


I really appreciate your comments Bud!
I realize it's hard to make suggestions when you can't see exactly what i'm talking about.

I'm now thinking about making some plunge cuts to each side to free the bottom plate from the frame using my oscillating multi-tool (with a metal cutting blade for the nails) and using a piece of 1/4 tile as a guide for the blade. Then i'll slide the plate out, make the final cuts for correct height, and either place the plate back with a filler under it, or go back with one of the adjustable ones, then anchor it all back in place. Caulk and seal.

Does that sound reasonable, or am i just wishful thinking?

Last edited by Lightfoot; 09-20-2011 at 02:06 PM.
Lightfoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2011, 02:08 PM   #8
Tileguy
 
Bud Cline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 10,488
Rewards Points: 2,624
Default

door threshold question??????


Quote:
Does that sound reasonable, or am i just wishful thinking?
Actually it does sound do-able. Since you came up with the idea I'll trust your ability to accomplish the task. That wouldn't be something I would suggest to just anybody but if it were me I wouldn't have a problem with the procedure.

Typically, suggesting "surgical remedies" on Internet Forums wouldn't fair well, but in this case; "I think you've got it Ollie"! My only suggestion would be to be sure the metal threshold is fully supported with something when it goes back in. You might also consider making the cuts at some kind of an angle which may aide in re-securing the piece when it is re-installed. I wouldn't think an angled-cut would look any more unsightly than a straight cut.
Bud Cline is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2011, 02:16 PM   #9
Member
 
Lightfoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ky
Posts: 412
Rewards Points: 252
Default

door threshold question??????


Will do

I'll let ya know how it turns out

thanks again for the input!
Lightfoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2011, 02:18 PM   #10
Tileguy
 
Bud Cline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 10,488
Rewards Points: 2,624
Default

door threshold question??????


Good Luck!
Bud Cline is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2011, 02:39 PM   #11
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 297
Rewards Points: 256
Default

door threshold question??????


That's what I would do. CUt the threshold out. Shim under(use something waterresistant) and re-attach.
I wouldn't ever put wood in a rental though. :-)
You must have better tenants than me.
michaelcherr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2011, 03:08 PM   #12
Member
 
Lightfoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ky
Posts: 412
Rewards Points: 252
Default

door threshold question??????


Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelcherr View Post
That's what I would do. CUt the threshold out. Shim under(use something waterresistant) and re-attach.
I wouldn't ever put wood in a rental though. :-)
You must have better tenants than me.
Sounds good, i'll give it a try Actually i have a piece of 1/4 inch aluminum plate just waiting to be sliced up. I knew i held on to it for a reason instead of recycling it.

and yes, these tenants are more particular than i am. They actually treat it like it's theirs. That's the only reason i went with wood instead of something cheaper. They are happy as can be, and i wanna keep them. Plus, if they ever leave-i will probably sell it and it'll be better for resale. they may even end up buying it.

The house has 8/10 of an acre and the guy keeps it like a golf course. They plant flowers, and fertilize the yard. Very unusual for renters i know. I consider myself fortunate to have them.
Lightfoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2012, 08:21 AM   #13
Member
 
Lightfoot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ky
Posts: 412
Rewards Points: 252
Default

door threshold question??????


Well, it's been so long i had even forgot about posting this. But in case anyone else runs in to this, here's what i did.

Using a sawzall with a metal cutting blade i cut the original bottom of the threshold in the middle, then carefully worked out each piece from the ends so as not to damage the wood frame. I went to ace hardware. They have what is call a "high profile" bottom plate which stands 1-3/8 tall including the rubber seal. Perfect! I actually had to trim the bottom of the door again and installed an adjustable door bottom with a sweep. All is well, and no light (or air) coming in around door. Sealed off really nice! Sorry no pix, i didn't have a camera with me.

Advertisement

Lightfoot is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
DRIcore question trailblazer1229 Flooring 0 02-24-2010 10:25 AM
3 Phase meter socket question a320200 Electrical 4 12-11-2009 01:45 AM
An unasked question is the only dumb question jackie treehorn Kitchen & Bath Remodeling 1 09-20-2009 09:24 PM
A question about water preassure. reasonforseason Plumbing 5 04-14-2009 05:36 PM
Basement Renovation Question KUIPORNG Remodeling 234 08-26-2008 09:19 AM




Top of Page | View New Posts