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creeper 04-01-2012 11:03 AM

door handle help
 
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I'm just about ready to snap! No matter how hard I try to tighten the little screw I can't get it to stay tight for very long and the whole assembly falls apart.

The glue worked for a while then just let go.

What to do?

Thx

rossfingal 04-01-2012 11:54 AM

"creeper"
I think I see.
What we've found is that when the door was installed (the handles, too) -
For some reason they did not tighten it, enough (or stripped the set screw) -
Wobbling and play loosened the set-screw and damaged the threads -
either on the set-screw or the handle.
Unfortunately, on the handle! - quite often!

Wait and see if one of the "window/door" people "chime in"!

I don't want to tell you to do "surgery" -
went someone might have a good idea for a "band-aid"!
(Which, might work!) :)
(No problem with the "Lock-Tite"!)
"RF"

creeper 04-01-2012 12:02 PM

Ya...I'm the one who installed the assembly....awkward... I've never had it tight enough in the first place,

I even went back to the store and they gave me a new kit but the same thing happens

joecaption 04-01-2012 12:12 PM

Lot's of times the threads in those handles were poor or not even threaded all the way through to begin with. I just run a tap into the hole to clean them up.
You also need to make sure the screw is hitting the detent or flat area on the shaft.
I've ran a drill into the threaded hole that's smaller the the threads to make a counter sink for the srew to sit into.
If it's a screw with a flat tip, see if you can find one the same size that's knerled, or pointed on the tip.
If the hole is now stripped it's going to have to be drilled the next size up and rethreaded. Loc Tites not going to shim it up.

creeper 04-01-2012 12:14 PM

K thanks Joe...I'll dig around and see what I've got

rossfingal 04-01-2012 12:15 PM

You have to be careful tightening the set-screws on those type of handles!
When we installed doors with those, type of handles -
We gave the "Allen-wrench" to the homeowner in a plastic bag -
marked.
We told them -
You should "snug" this up, about once a year!
No, not a 250 lb. to 300 lb. person with a "cheater-bar" on the wrench!!!
Stuff happens, though!
Wait and see, if one of the window/door people wander through! :)
"RF"

(See - "Mr. Caption" showed up!)

joecaption 04-01-2012 12:21 PM

Most often that original screw is metric. If it gets rethreaded make sure to use a fine thread tap, and it does not need to be metric if your rethreading the hole.

Jay 78 04-05-2012 09:24 PM

I deal with issues like this all the time on the radio-controlled car forums.

If the Loctite isn't holding it, odds are you're not getting it as tight as it needs to be in the first place.

The importance of a quality hex wrench can't be stressed enough. They're definitely not all created equal. Crappy hex tools will round themselves or the set screw out,which will prevent you from torquing it down enough to stay put. Some are built with really low tolerances and therefore aren't even appropriately sized.

It might be too late for this set screw, as most I've seen are made with relatively soft metals that will round easily. If you replace the screw, make sure you have a good tool, and don't over tighten to the point that the wrench slips within the screw. Game over if that happens more than a couple times, if even once.

An appropriately sized Torx bit will sometimes do the trick, but that's usually a last resort for a screw that's already rounded out.

I have the same hardware on my door, BTW. You have good taste. :thumbsup:


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