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Old 02-22-2013, 11:01 AM   #1
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We own a house that we are looking to sell, possibly rent. Therefore, I'm not looking to buy the best of everything, yet not trying to waste money on cheap junk either. Just something "good enough".

These are the two I'm eyeing. In my price range, not too cheap, not too expensive. I don't care one way or the other about the grilles between the windows.

I'm fairly handy, done a good bit of work. I've hung interior doors before, but not exterior doors. How difficult are these to replace and install? How many people do I need? Does anyone have a GOOD how-to on these? No junk from ehow.com or any of that.

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http://www.lowes.com/pd_326434-94705...3191529&rpp=48

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...kuId=202954863

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Replacing a slider isn't that difficult in general assuming the opening size stays the same and there's no stucco work involved.

What type of siding do you have?

Posting pictures of the inside and outside of what you have now would help us with giving you more specific details on what's involved in your case.

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No problem, I will check to see if I have any pics already online; if not I will take some. No stucco, just drywall on the inside, and vinyl siding on the outside. I'm doing drywall repair/finishing on that wall anyways, so if I have to cut any up, or take it out of the frame, it's not a problem. No plans on changing the size. I originally had Home Depot out to measure and they said there were no issues with my framing, but if I can save $450, I'd like to.
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I will have to get better pics up later, this is all I can find for now that's already online. I realize these probably don't do much good.









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Pretty simple job, takes to people to get in place and just hold it untill it can be fastened.
You can count on it having not been flashed correctly and may be some damage under it.
If I had to do it I'd get one with a nailing fin.
I'd remove the siding around it in order to be able to 100% water seal it with window tape and add a piece of Z moulding over the top of the door.
It needs to be flashed something like this, just on a larger scale.
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Those pictures are good enough. Assuming there's no rot issues (don't assume anything) yours is about as easy as it gets.

You'll need to remove the siding and the J-channel around the door. Buy a vinyl siding removal tool (zip tool). The tool cost about eight bucks but will make things go real easy.

Once the siding's off you'll see the nail flange of the old slider. Once the old is out and everything looks solid install a door pan flashing and then the door (I run a bead of caulk around the opening to seat the nail flange into).

Once the door's in and operates fine install the head flashing and cover the nail flanges with flashing tape. Re-install the siding and there you go.
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Thank you for the input! New project means new terms I need to look up the meaning to.
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Thank you for the input! New project means new terms I need to look up the meaning to.
At least you're doing your homework "before" you start, unlike many that post here.

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Yes! Part of my problem is I over-analyze and over-plan everything; but better than being stuck having a 6' hole in the side of my house.

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Excellent. I have a piece of siding I need to replace also on the side of my house where a tree branch fell, and put a hole in it.
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Yes! Part of my problem is I over-analyze and over-plan everything; but better than being stuck having a 6' hole in the side of my house.
If you end up with a rotted wall just take some pictures, stick the old slider back in the hole and we'll go from there.
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I just love it when I see a house where someone has a hole in the siding and instead of taking the time to replace the whole piece they stick on a patch.
It's all of a 15 min. job and about $7.00 for a piece of siding.
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Easy job, make sure the weep holes are clear when you are done, they are on the bottom threshold. Not sure of the quality of the doors you are using. I spent 300 dollars a door and they were fairly bad but worked for what i was doing. A nice anderson door could cost you around 3,000 dollars if you were wondering.
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I've installed a few of this brand and was very pleased with them.
No thin threshold that keeps twisting.
Why not a french door instead of a slider.
A better look, double the opening size if needed, less air leaks.
http://www.atrium.com/
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I recently replaced a patio slider with a French door from Lowe's (door was about $350) on a stucco home. It was my first job and turn out my a bit more tricky than I expected.

I did had a hard time removing the door mainly because it was old and rusty.

Couple of things to watch out for.
Make sure rough openingos big enough and plus some slack.

There is a good possibility that it was not flash correctly and there is damage wood.

The stucco wasn't too bad.. I just put trim over it instead of restucco.

Good luck with your project

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