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Old 03-19-2010, 10:50 AM   #61
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I would be very surprised if your double hung windows are not original. Because they are so serviceable, they can last for hundreds of years, and they are built the way they are so they can be repaired, not replaced. If they are coated in paint and barely working, you can be sure they are original. I am in the process of restoring my 90 year old wooden d.h. windows and it has been a great project . You really cannot touch the elegance of properly working, actual double hung windows. However restoration is only a cost effective alternative to replacement if you do the work yourself. With the number of hours I have put into each window, it would have been far cheaper to get new windows than pay an outside restorer, and they wouldn't have done as good a job as I've done. As for the lead issue, adherence to a few basic abatement techniques takes your risk of contamination way, way down.

For the record, if I lived in a cold weather place, I probably would be replacing my windows, not restoring.

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Old 03-19-2010, 06:24 PM   #62
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Great information. Thanks for taking the time to update.
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Old 03-22-2010, 10:31 AM   #63
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I did some more poking around. A restoration company says that the windows are probably original. Removal, stripping, re-installation with new hardware and cords, plus the same kind of ugly aluminum storms that I have now: $1,000 per opening.

So if I was immortal, I could put in new vinyl replacement windows every 25 years for the next 75 years at the cost of restoring the windows that are original to the house, which, by the way, is not architecturally significant.

A weekend stroll around various streets in the area revealed that only a couple of the highest-end homes have original windows without storms. A lot of homes have vinyl replacements.

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That is why restoration work always commands a premium at resale - because it is expensive, difficult and relatively rare. Vinyl windows are practical, comfortable and extremely common, and while nice to have, they don't really add value to a home.
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In my local real estate market, there is no way I could recoup the investment in restored windows; however, energy efficient replacement windows are a selling point.
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Vinyl windows are practical, comfortable and extremely common, and while nice to have, they don't really add value to a home.
I think that very much depends upon the area & the house
Given the choice between single pane & new vinyl I'll take the new vinyl
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I think that very much depends upon the area & the house
Given the choice between single pane & new vinyl I'll take the new vinyl
I throw some pictures of my single pane windows on the site when I get them finished and we'll see if you still feel the same way.
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Single pane to me means maintenance & higher energy bills
I've replaced every window in my house now, 25 in the original house
Add to that the 31 in the new sunroom & addition...I'd be doing a lot of work long term
I like the cleaner look of just a top & bottom pane
And there is no way my wife wants to clean between divided lights like a 6 over 6
I like the look on some houses....but I'm very happy with what we have

Our front picture window is fractional grille at the top, Dining room picture window now matches
Its been 5 years for most windows & I have yet to have to do anything to them

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I must admit that fractional grille has a nice appearance.
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My pro-preservation acquaintances say restoring the original windows is architecturally consistent and therefore looks better. The problem with that logic, in my case at least, is that most of the houses on this street, including mine, have vinyl siding. Add to that the exterior aluminum storm windows and it's definitely not the way the house looked originally.

Also, I grew up with single-pane, double-hung sashes and aluminum storm windows. I've never been impressed by their air-tightness. This house has them, and the plastic sheeting I've got taped over them in the dining room billows in and out.
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It depends upon what you want long term
We had vinyl siding & I knew from Day One I was getting rid of it
The existing windows were one over one so we knew we already liked that look
We are going back to wood siding on the sides & painted siding front & back
The peak in the fornt will have blue rounded shingles (stained I think)

Think of how you want the house to look long term
They do make the vinyl windows with divided lights
Some people are alos only doing the top with the grilles/divided lights
The thing I do not like on most vinylks windows is the flimsy grille inserts
They are made to be removed for easy cleaning...but look cheap IMO
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As you are not experienced in window installation suggest you paya professional to install for you.

The reason: Windows seal your house from the weather, they provide ventilation and light basically they are an integral part of a living space.

To have the windows leak water, draw wind and possibly not function correctly, will be more costly for you to repair later, let alone put up with the potential problems!

Do you get a foot doctor to check your faulty heart because its cheaper!!
I've been installing replacement windows for years, as well as every aspect of framing and fine finishwork. Although there can be complications, most window installations are extremely overpriced due to lead regulations and contractor overhead. With the right instruction, anyone can measure, order, and install their own windows.

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I've been using Eco View Windows for the past 10 years. There are only a hand full of companies that have the good housekeeping seal and that are affordable. Half the price of Andersen.
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