Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Insulation

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-26-2013, 09:02 PM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: far sw sub chicago
Posts: 3,762
Rewards Points: 14
Share |
Default

insulating wall behind cabinets ?


are there any special precautions to be taken when rebuilding/insulating the walls behind cabinets in a new kitchen ?

Fix'n it is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2013, 09:36 PM   #2
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 26,426
Rewards Points: 192
Default

insulating wall behind cabinets ?


None I can think of, strange question, any reason your asking?

joecaption is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2013, 10:29 PM   #3
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 9,968
Rewards Points: 0
Default

insulating wall behind cabinets ?


IMO, put some horizontal blocking in between studs to screw cabinets too (some let-in plywood strips for upper/lower rails). ADA the drywall, if an exterior wall; http://www.buildingscience.com/docum...wall-approach/ Foam gaskets on interior walls. Caulk the sheathing/wood framing joints against air infiltration/exfiltration to get full R-value from insulation. Caulk the wall/ceiling drywall joint, all wiring/plumbing holes through top/bottom plates. Caulk the bottom plate/subfloor joint against air per code; http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/ic...002_par021.htm

http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/ic...002_par022.htm
Take a picture/store on computer of complex plumbing/wiring as a reference for work after drywall hides it all. Add layers of rigid foamboard below top plates (in stud cavities) as this leads to major heat loss/ice dams on exterior walls.

Gary
__________________
If any ads are present in my answer above, I do not condone/support/use the product or services listed, they are there against my permission.
Gary in WA is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Gary in WA For This Useful Post:
<*(((>< (03-28-2013)
Old 03-27-2013, 07:57 AM   #4
Exterior Construction
 
Windows on Wash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: VA, MD, DC
Posts: 6,261
Rewards Points: 104
Default

insulating wall behind cabinets ?


Nothing specific.

I do like the blocking that Gary recommends and same approach as any exterior wall. Air tight and insulated right.
Windows on Wash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2013, 08:24 PM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: far sw sub chicago
Posts: 3,762
Rewards Points: 14
Default

insulating wall behind cabinets ?


i am asking because = years ago, i put some boxs of stuff up against an exterior wall. and mode grew there. cabinets are boxs, and all of my new ones are going to be on exterior walls. obviously i don't want to start a mold farm.

Gary. i am already doing all those air sealing things. and thanx for the blocking idea. that makes a lot of sense , and i will implement it.

and i take a bunch of pics throughout.

the room is now a bedroom, that was added on after the house was build. in the typical poor construction of this house. actually it was a porch, then build out another %50 and closed up into a room. i am waiting for the weather to break, so i can start demo.
Fix'n it is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 07:30 AM   #6
Exterior Construction
 
Windows on Wash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: VA, MD, DC
Posts: 6,261
Rewards Points: 104
Default

insulating wall behind cabinets ?


You have the skip sheathing with the tar paper if I recall correctly?

Some insulation at the outer layer that is a bit more resistant to the solar vapor push will help keep the solar driven moisture out of the walls and off the back of the cabinets.

You don't want a vapor trap but anything to break up the capillary action and vapor push will help.
Windows on Wash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 04:51 PM   #7
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 9,968
Rewards Points: 0
Default

insulating wall behind cabinets ?


Maybe there is no existing vapor barrier/retarder? Are there any holes in the plate from checking below, in the crawl/basement, that wiring/plumbing is run; letting cold air into the wall cavity condensing warm air from the room, on surface. Lol, I have a cold/cough, the meds restrict typing/formatting.

Gary
__________________
If any ads are present in my answer above, I do not condone/support/use the product or services listed, they are there against my permission.
Gary in WA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 05:01 PM   #8
Love for Construction
 
<*(((><'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Idaho
Posts: 318
Rewards Points: 0
Default

insulating wall behind cabinets ?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary in WA View Post
IMO, put some horizontal blocking in between studs to screw cabinets too (some let-in plywood strips for upper/lower rails). ADA the drywall, if an exterior wall; http://www.buildingscience.com/docum...wall-approach/ Foam gaskets on interior walls. Caulk the sheathing/wood framing joints against air infiltration/exfiltration to get full R-value from insulation. Caulk the wall/ceiling drywall joint, all wiring/plumbing holes through top/bottom plates. Caulk the bottom plate/subfloor joint against air per code; http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/ic...002_par021.htm

http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/ic...002_par022.htm
Take a picture/store on computer of complex plumbing/wiring as a reference for work after drywall hides it all. Add layers of rigid foamboard below top plates (in stud cavities) as this leads to major heat loss/ice dams on exterior walls.

Gary
Gary you never cease to amaze me, you are a wealth of knowledge when it comes to this stuff, good to have you in this forum. Your links are always useful to refer back to.
__________________
-luke-
<*(((>< is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 08:20 PM   #9
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: far sw sub chicago
Posts: 3,762
Rewards Points: 14
Default

insulating wall behind cabinets ?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Windows on Wash View Post
You have the skip sheathing with the tar paper if I recall correctly?

Some insulation at the outer layer that is a bit more resistant to the solar vapor push will help keep the solar driven moisture out of the walls and off the back of the cabinets.

You don't want a vapor trap but anything to break up the capillary action and vapor push will help.
no. i have T&G sheathing, 1" XPS inside cavity and roxul to fill it out. everything caulked up tight. XPS will go under the siding when i get to it.
Fix'n it is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 08:24 PM   #10
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: far sw sub chicago
Posts: 3,762
Rewards Points: 14
Default

insulating wall behind cabinets ?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary in WA View Post
Maybe there is no existing vapor barrier/retarder? Are there any holes in the plate from checking below, in the crawl/basement, that wiring/plumbing is run; letting cold air into the wall cavity condensing warm air from the room, on surface. Lol, I have a cold/cough, the meds restrict typing/formatting.

Gary
the room is being gutted to studs, new sistered joists and a layer of floor sheathing over the original subfloor. new windows, doors, electric, plumbing, flooring, drywall. well, everything, all new everything.

Fix'n it is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Insulating Uneven Basement Wall Help (with pics) jefferyscott Building & Construction 3 02-01-2013 11:32 AM
Refinishing old Cabinets ryanb4614 Carpentry 4 08-18-2011 06:24 PM
Max height for wall cabinets above counter? ws450r Kitchen & Bath Remodeling 16 08-06-2010 08:58 AM
Painting Kitchen Cabinets, Back wall NewlywedKristin Interior Decorating 12 03-18-2010 10:23 AM
Installing kitchen wall cabinets higher than spec recommendation? alexz General DIY Discussions 14 07-20-2008 11:32 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.