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Old 05-23-2012, 07:01 PM   #1
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First question. Can anyone identify the bush/shrub in the pictures listed below.

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Second question. Is anyone familiar with the usage of a product called Superthrive? It was recommended to me by an employee at HD, and I didn't think much of it, but I looked it up on the internet anyway. I still didn't think much of it, because it wasn't from a nursery or someone I necessarily trusted, but then a customer of mine who is a Master Gardener also recommended it. We got hit pretty hard by frost this spring, after an all too warm Feb. and March. Some recently transplanted bushes and fruit trees are struggling, and my Weigela in particular I'm concerned if it will make it. Supposedly this Superthrive is a collection of horomones and vitamins that are already found in most plants, so it's "natural". It appears to get great reviews. The bush pictured was in an area of the yard I didn't want it, so I dug it up to move it and the dirt fell away quickly. I read I could soak a pulled up plant in water and Superthrive and plant it a day or more later, so that's what you see in the pictures. I put a cap full to about 3.5 gal. I also have tried it on the cherry trees hit by frost, giving them about the same ratio, but pulling the mulch away and pouring it slowly to soak the roots, then covering the area around the trunks with mulch again. I'm really hoping for some good results this year, but who knows if this miracle worker will work miracles for me. Anyway, I haven't done anything to my Weigela yet, but nearly everything higher than 3" above the ground is dead, no green anywhere when I scrape a bit of the bark with a fingernail. I'm thinking of cutting it back most of the way, and since it will have to be moved eventually as well, digging it out and soaking it like I've done this unidentified shrub.

I am in Michigan's northern lower peninsula, Zone 4. Nearly all of the stuff I'm concerned about is somewhat out in the open in full sun. The Weigela is on the SE corner of the house, and was put in from a pot last fall.

If anyone has any pointers, please let me know, especially concerning this product that says it is NOT a fertilizer. Also, if anyone can identify the plant in the pictures, I'd appreciate it.


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I think what you've got there is a sumach tree. Take a few leaves to the nursery or to a ravine to I. D. them. One species of sumach is poisonous and will cause rashes. Better find out which yours is.
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I think what you've got there is a sumach tree. Take a few leaves to the nursery or to a ravine to I. D. them. One species of sumach is poisonous and will cause rashes. Better find out which yours is.
Hmm, that hasn't been mentioned before. I had a few suggestions, anywhere from a mulberry bush to a wild rose, the wild rose suggestion coming from someone with a degree in horticulture. I would have just cut it out and disposed of it; however, it was protected and mulched around it when I moved in, so it looked like it had been planted intentionally (by then damaged from someone mowing it over). I figured it could be worth saving if they had planted it in the middle of the yard and mulched around it.

My parents have taken stuff to an MSU extension office to have it identified. I'll have to find out where that is.

No one here has heard of or used Superthrive?
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Well I sure don't claim to have a degree in horticulture, I can say for certain it does not look like a wild rose to me. However I am not above saying I could be wrong

Not all sumach is bad, in fact some of the fall foliage is spectacular

If I was you I would simply take a piece to a local reputable nursery. Not a grocery store garden centre

You haven't stated your location so I can't claim to know your native species
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I changed my mind....Since you stated in was planted in the middle with mulch...its a mountain ash tree. It produces clusters of hard orange berries in the fall. Mountain ash you may want to keep...sumach..not so much

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Thanks for your responses. I replanted the "shrub" where I won't mind it growing. I will keep an eye out for any berries or other growth, but you're right; I'll make it a priority to bring some leaves to a nursery or other reputable source for ID.

In my first post, I said Northern MI, zone 4.
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Found this picture of a Virginia Rose, Wikipedia says it's refered to as one of many "wild roses". Looks similar, but so does the mountain ash pictures I saw. Looks like I'll need to ask an expert or I'll go on thinking the wrong thing.
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Steve will know. He will be along shortly
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I dont know what it is but it is not sumach.

Sumac maybe?


If so, it would not be planted as an ornimental, it is a weed tree, although is is very pretty in the fall, bright red.


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I vote for Sumac, more precisely, Staghorn Sumac. Fuzzy red stems. No need to worry about Poison Sumac- it resembles Poison Ivy, with 3 leaflets per leaf.

Superthrive has been advertised on the back cover of horticulture trade magazines for many years. I have never seen the product available, except by internet/mail order.
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I dont know what it is but it is not sumach.

Sumac maybe?


If so, it would not be planted as an ornimental, it is a weed tree, although is is very pretty in the fall, bright red.


http://www.google.com/search?q=sumac...iw=929&bih=461

No sumach is what I mean

Colour ..not color
labour....not labor
neighbour...not neighbor

its pronounced zed and not zee.
We speak english from England not english from slangy bastardized American dialect
Anything else you would like to correct

Oh by the way its ornamental not your version of ornimental

http://www.plantguide.org/staghorn-s...mach-tree.html

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Well, you are speaking to Americans who understand" slangy bastardized American dialect" and not the english from England.
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Superthrive has a bunch of synthetic vitamins and growth hormones in it. Like B1 which helps reduce plant stress.

I don't use superthrive simply because it doesn't list the things it has in it.

Theres natural organic things that would serve the same purpose such as an Alfalfa meal/kelp meal compost tea mix. Will serve the same purpose. When transplanting you would want to brew that then water with it.
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Superthrive is used extensively in orchid growing. Be careful though. Using too much, too often can cause mutations. If you google it and orchids, you will find a lot of information.

I haven't used it much but I'm not sure I would use it on fruit trees. I personally like fruit tree spikes. Cheap and usually effective.

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