No Till fertilizing?

creeper · 07-13-2012, 12:06 PM

Yes post # 6 addresses how I remove weeds. I don't turn the soil over, just loosen

DrHicks · 07-13-2012, 12:08 PM

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Yes post # 6 addresses how I remove weeds. I don't turn the soil over, just loosen

Right.

So in the broad sense of the word, you're tilling the soil. Just to a different degree, and with different tools.

You're also dealing with different soil than I am, and different growing seasons.

AGWhitehouse · 07-13-2012, 12:37 PM

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Right.

So in the broad sense of the word, you're tilling the soil. Just to a different degree, and with different tools.

That's not tilling at all. Not even close. The soils are being loosened, not turned over. The bottom is not being brought to the top.

AGWhitehouse · 07-13-2012, 12:42 PM

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That's a pretty crass way of looking at it. Home Depot also sells hoes, shovels, fertilizer and herbicides. They also sell a lot of "how to" books - so maybe that's where they're making their money?

Hoes and shovels have uses far beyond gardening and selling/use/type of fertilizers/herbicides isn't even relevant to this topic. So who's crass here?

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Anyway, my wife & I have been gardening for the better part of 30 years now. We - especially she - are always open to new ideas, and trying new things. But going no-till is not something we're going to be doing.

So you're here (in a post about no-till) arguing FOR tilling? I'm confused...

DrHicks · 07-13-2012, 01:11 PM

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Hoes and shovels have uses far beyond gardening and selling/use/type of fertilizers/herbicides isn't even relevant to this topic. So who's crass here?

So you're here (in a post about no-till) arguing FOR tilling? I'm confused...

Okay here's the deal...

You started this thread, asking for information & opinions about not tilling gardens. In my first post I said that there are too many variables to make a "one rule fits all" call. I spoke of how I garden, my tillage practices, and why I do them.

But from my first post until now, you've basically smarted off at me, been snarky, and made inane comments about Home Depot.

If you're such an expert, why are you even asking for advice? Just do whatever you want to do.

I'm done with this nonsense.

DrHicks · 07-13-2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AGWhitehouse

That's not tilling at all. Not even close. The soils are being loosened, not turned over. The bottom is not being brought to the top.

This is incorrect. Tillage is the preparation of the soil by mechanical agitation of various types, such as digging, stirring and overturning.

But never mind. You already know everything about gardening.

AGWhitehouse · 07-13-2012, 01:19 PM

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There are far too many variables in gardening, to say that one thing does or does not work. I till our 3 gardens in both the fall and spring. My tiller is rear-mount, on the back of a John Deere garden tractor, so it tills deep and leaves an ideal seed-bed.

I dump a lot of leaves on the gardens before I till them in the fall. Makes for a lot of organic matter, and softens otherwise hard soil. It also leaves ideal conditions for snow to soak in, and for the soil to be nice and mallow in the spring.

This is your first post, no where is there information about NO-till fertilizing...Again I'm confused...

AGWhitehouse · 07-13-2012, 01:21 PM

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Tillage is the preparation of the soil by mechanical agitation of various types, such as digging, stirring and overturning.

And if you read, they "loosen" the soil. Essentially the same as an aerator works. In no way is that action digging, stirring, or overturning. But never mind. You already know everything about gardening...

DrHicks · 07-13-2012, 01:23 PM

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and if you read, they "loosen" the soil. Essentially the same as an aerator works. In no way is that action digging, stirring, or overturning. But never mind. You already know everything about gardening...

One more chump on IGNORE.

AGWhitehouse · 07-13-2012, 01:25 PM

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One more chump on IGNORE.

Does this mean you're done hijacking this post?