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Old 08-05-2012, 08:52 PM   #16
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Where I live a product like that would not be avaliable for purchase for the average homeowner. I've actually never heard of it. We can't get weed'n feed products. Round up in small amounts only. The jugs are kept locked up.

Someone else will be around the corner shortly
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Old 08-05-2012, 09:01 PM   #18
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No garbage grinders in the sink either. Some towns have banned single serve water bottles Plastic grocery bags are gone as of Jan. 1 2013.

At this rate pretty soon they will ban our snow mobiles and make us resort to our musher dogs and snow shoes only. Dang they are a lot of work.
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Atleast you have free medical. I'v forked over over $700 in the past month out of pocket for stuff I'm sure wasn't even necessary.
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Why?
I don't know its been years since I bought any, but I will ask next time I remember. Maybe they think the kid with the key will screen me and stop me from buying massive quantites
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Atleast you have free medical. I'v forked over over $700 in the past month out of pocket for stuff I'm sure wasn't even necessary.
Couldn't do without it. I can't even imagine what it would be like to have to save up to see the Doc.
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Well..... It's rained hard all day long and now a bunch of my blocks have tilted or sunk a little. Looks like a lot of the sand managed to was away. Im not sure what to do now. It took me forever to lay all these blocks down level!!!!
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Thats really hard luck Nikeman. I'm not trying to be a smarta**, but Joe told you in post 2 to make sure you put in a suitable base. He calls it crusher run. I'd use limestone screenings. Crusher run is for driveways, around here anyway.

If you can't stand to start over , you may get away with patching it up piecemeal for the rest of this season, but eventually its all going to shift.

Chalk it up to experience.
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Why?
I bought some round up the other day and got an answer to that question, but I couldn't remember where it was asked.

All sizes of roundup are kept locked up. The clerks are required by law to read you the riot act when trying to purchase. You have to lie and say its not for cosmetic reasons and that I really do have noxious weeds growing in my driveway. Poison ivy was my excuse.

I was warned to keep an eye out for municipal guys lurking about as the fine for using the stuff is quite hefty.

Farmers can buy it in concentrate and in large quantities. Apparently they are more responsible than us homeowners
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Over the years, I have seen the clamps put on consumer use of a lot of ag chemicals because most seem not good at all at following label directions. If a capful per gallon and two successive applications is recommended to kill weeds just imagine what a quart per gallon and one pass can do? The environment suffers. Boron, one of the few things that will kill creeping charly, is a great example. It takes very little to make the solutions but homeowners went crazy. In concentrations Boron renders soil absolutely sterile for a long time. EPA and other agencies had no choice but to step in. Many states have banned it. Same scenario with MSMA for crabgrass being discussed on this forum at the moment.

I had not heard of tightening on purchase and use of RoundUp yet here but it will not surprise me. Good for Canada for being one step ahead of us on that front. Even I am probably too casual about suggesting people grab for it for just about anything.

And Jan, I think farmers of all kinds probably are more careful with chemicals at least for the most part. Among other things, they feel the cost of them more the home gardener. Maybe needing a permit to buy things like RoundUp, as is the case for many other pesticides and herbicides, is the way it has to be. Will it force people to use them more responsibly? Hard to say. How do you get people to follow directions when using chemicals or to understand their actions on their own little piece of the Earth can greatly effect streams, just for example, and the ecosystems in them.

Even things like over use of nitrogen render the ponds around which nice homes are built disgusting by this time of year in Central Illinois. It does the Illinois River no favors either and the US has pending suits from a number of countries surrounding the Gulf of Mexico for its roll in killing off corral and shrimp beds. Just from ag runoff that could be stopped if people just applied according to directions.

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Actually, I do try and limit the use of all chemicals in my garden. Dish soap for bugs on the flowers works great. Good old fashioned elbow grease on the weeds.
I'm adding some more crusher run to my driveway and I wanted to get rid of the weeds that wouldn't come out with a tug. They are in there like cement at this time of year. I was considering road salt but where do you get that at this time of year.
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I thought my layer of leveling sand was the base. I may have found a solution that does not require me to start over. I tested it out on a 5' section just to see what happens. It will either fix the problem or make it worse and harder to fix. We shall see tomorrow if it doesn't rain all day again. I don't want to look like an idiot again so I will wait to see if it works before I say what I did. Lol.
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You didn't look like an idiot. Everbody makes mistakes when they first start a new thing. You live and learn. You should see some of the parts of my house that I've hacked away at.

Let us know if your idea worked out
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You didn't look like an idiot. Everbody makes mistakes when they first start a new thing. You live and learn. You should see some of the parts of my house that I've hacked away at.

Let us know if your idea worked out
I will. I'm actually kind of hoping it does rain hard tomorrow to really test it out. My mind set was to prevent erosion and therefore keep the blocks in place!

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