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Old 07-07-2012, 07:51 AM   #16
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I found a composter that's like a big barrel and it sits on a frame that allows it to spin.

I keep it outside the back door so that it's close enough to throw scraps in every day - even in the winter.

I wouldn't say it's as good as other ways of composting, but the kids can't bother it and it requires very little time to turn it.

Tractorfarmer, I saw a video on YouTube about a farm where they hired a lot of teenage workers for the summer. They lived on site. The farmer had a huge compost pile and ran a hose through it like you suggested. It made enough hot water for all of the workers to take a hot outdoor shower every day.
Now thats a cool idea.

I've got one of those raised spinning compost barrels. I thought it a good idea at the time, because I didn't want snakes or mice nesting in the cone type ones that sit on the ground.

I always forget to add water, so there is not a lot of decomposing going on.
Kitchen waste is picked up for composting by the region, its easier to chuck it into the bin in the garage.

This spring I found the lid open and the contents spilled into the weeds growing below. He denies it obviously, but you know who did it don't you Barb

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If you check out Mother Earth New Magizine you see all kinds of tips for a big compost pile like you find on a farm.
One was a double line pot that looked like a pressure cooker.
You just put your food inside the inside pot and seal up the outside one then dig a hole in the compost.
It heated it up slowly like a Crock pot.
At the end of the day you washed it off, opened it up and dinner was all done and cost 0 to cook it.

They also showed how to heat a chicken coop in the winter with one.
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Now thats a cool idea.

I've got one of those raised spinning compost barrels. I thought it a good idea at the time, because I didn't want snakes or mice nesting in the cone type ones that sit on the ground.

I always forget to add water, so there is not a lot of decomposing going on.
Kitchen waste is picked up for composting by the region, its easier to chuck it into the bin in the garage.

This spring I found the lid open and the contents spilled into the weeds growing below. He denies it obviously, but you know who did it don't you Barb
You should put your kitchen waste in your own pile anyway Jan. It adds a lot of moisture to the pile. One thing about my composter is that there is too much moisture in it. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing, but sometimes when I spin it, water runs out of it through the seams.

With it being closed all the time, the liquids don't seem to evaporate.
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You should put your kitchen waste in your own pile anyway Jan. It adds a lot of moisture to the pile. One thing about my composter is that there is too much moisture in it. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing, but sometimes when I spin it, water runs out of it through the seams.

With it being closed all the time, the liquids don't seem to evaporate.
That was the idea at the time when I bought it, but the trek across the yard seems so far at times.

Do you have the Green bin program where you are?

Here, we put practically everything in the bin...including meat scraps and bones, paper towels and paper plates, egg cartons. Nothing needs to be sorted. Just one big disgusting bin. They cart it off once a week as well as yard waste. Once a year in the spring you can get back free compost. Bring your own container.
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That's the one good thing about it being by the back door - I know I wouldn't have time to walk out to the back yard 2 or 3 times a day.

One idea for you is to keep a small trash can, with a good lid, outside your back door or in the garage, if it's attached. Put all of your scraps in it and when it's full, take it out to the composter in the back yard.

We don't have the Green bin program or even a recycling day with the trash. But there is a huge recycling center just 3 miles from here.
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If you check out Mother Earth New Magizine you see all kinds of tips for a big compost pile like you find on a farm.
One was a double line pot that looked like a pressure cooker.
You just put your food inside the inside pot and seal up the outside one then dig a hole in the compost.
It heated it up slowly like a Crock pot.
At the end of the day you washed it off, opened it up and dinner was all done and cost 0 to cook it.

They also showed how to heat a chicken coop in the winter with one.
Of course the difference being on a farm, the compost pile is mostly the contents of the stall -muck out. To be sure, my kitchen houses no farm animals..( wait a minute...)
That stuff is already way warmer than some leftover rotting salad
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That's the one good thing about it being by the back door - I know I wouldn't have time to walk out to the back yard 2 or 3 times a day.

One idea for you is to keep a small trash can, with a good lid, outside your back door or in the garage, if it's attached. Put all of your scraps in it and when it's full, take it out to the composter in the back yard.

We don't have the Green bin program or even a recycling day with the trash. But there is a huge recycling center just 3 miles from here.
Really, no recycling day. so where is the incentive to take the trip to the centre? Are you limited to the number of bags of garbage you are allowed to set out, or does the whole thing just end up in landfill?

I don't mean to criticize, but in this day and age you'd think your area would have a program up and running. We've had a recycling day pick up for over 15 years. The green bin program has been in effective for at least 5.
We have kitchen and yard waste and recycle stuff picked up once a week. Regular garbage gets picked up every 2nd week and we are limited to 4 regular household containers.
Large stuff like appliances or chesterfields gets picked up once a month

Garbage grinders at the sink are illegal

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Wow, I'd have to get an instruction manual if I moved to Canada. j/k

We have trash pickup every Monday. They provided us with a dumpster that holds everything we need to get rid of. No yard waste allowed or they can refuse to take it that week.

We can put out an additional 2 large trash bags if we need to for no extra charge.

If we have something big to toss out, we set it next to the dumpster. Sometimes it will disappear during the night. If it's something the garbage man can lift, he'll take it. Otherwise he leaves it and we have to take it to the dump/recycle center, which I think is $25.

Garbage disposals are legal here. I had ours removed when there was some plumbing that needed to be done under the sink. It didn't work anyway and I'm not fond of them.

I'm not sure that I would participate in a green bin program. Now that I have the composter, I like using it. It's neat that you can get free compost twice a year, but I'd be hesitant to use it in my vegetable garden for fear that someone emptied their cat pan into it or puts their dog poo in it. I've read that you're not supposed to compost pet or human doo-doo.

Some areas have recycling on garbage day (?). For all I know, it's available here, but I don't use it and I don't recall seeing extra bins by my neighbors' trash cans. I like the idea of recycling and do it as much as I can, but to be honest, I won't pay extra for them to take it away.

I believe a lot of it doesn't end up at a recycling center. And I have seen too much evidence proving the whole "global warming" story is nothing but a scam. Having said that, I still think everyone needs to recycle and do what we can to keep the environment nice. Not because recycling a juice bottle or plastic grocery bag is going to 'save the earth', but because we don't need to live like a bunch of slobs or fill the landfills unnecessarily.

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Not recycling here will get you ostracized pretty quickly. Its everywhere including all public places like Mcdonalds ect. A bunch of bins lined up together all labeled. Food waste, plastic cups, newspapers and of course recycle stuff. Most people just leave the newspapers on top anyway for the next person to read.
But even the dump has specific bins
Plastic grocery bags are currently 5 cents per bag if you don't bring your own. As of Jan. 2013 they will be banned entirely. The meet we are attending has already banned individual water bottles. Refillable only.
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I remember when the big evil thing was using paper bags - "Save the trees!".

So we went to plastic bags - which, like paper, have their pro's and con's - and those aren't good enough either.

So now the big trend is cloth grocery bags. Of the three, these are my favorite choice... except for the fact that I would forget to bring them into the store with me.

But I'm really hoping we don't go to cloth only. Most people, I believe, keep their bags in a clean spot in their house. But I'm 99% sure there are plenty of people with all kinds of nasty bugs and mice venturing in and out of those cloth bags while they're left in a pile on the floor in their house. I don't like the idea of customers bringing those filthy things into the grocery store, with the possibility of roaches falling or crawling out and infesting the stores. I don't want to open a box of crackers at home and have a cockroach scamper out.

Am I being paranoid?

Oh, and I hope I didn't make it sound like Americans don't recycle. Some people are really great about it.
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I remember when the big evil thing was using paper bags - "Save the trees!".

So we went to plastic bags - which, like paper, have their pro's and con's - and those aren't good enough either.

So now the big trend is cloth grocery bags. Of the three, these are my favorite choice... except for the fact that I would forget to bring them into the store with me.

But I'm really hoping we don't go to cloth only. Most people, I believe, keep their bags in a clean spot in their house. But I'm 99% sure there are plenty of people with all kinds of nasty bugs and mice venturing in and out of those cloth bags while they're left in a pile on the floor in their house. I don't like the idea of customers bringing those filthy things into the grocery store, with the possibility of roaches falling or crawling out and infesting the stores. I don't want to open a box of crackers at home and have a cockroach scamper out.

Am I being paranoid?

Oh, and I hope I didn't make it sound like Americans don't recycle. Some people are really great about it.
My concern with mice and roaches is the stores infecting the shoppers not the other way around, Regardless, its cyclic.

I always forget my bags too. I have a pile of different ones and some are like a magnet for dog fur. They get used for library trips and such.

Its the bacteria from the meat packs that worry me although the bags should get laundered. Notice I said should.
Some people just have hard plastic bins. Thats probably the way I'll go.

Of course I don't think all Americans are non recyclers. "They" just have us minions trained well up here.
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You're right. Even the cleanest stores can get cockroaches & other bugs brought in on pallets from the manufacturers. Luckily they do a pretty good job of controlling it. There's really no foolproof way of doing it I guess.

I hadn't thought about the juices from the meat packages leaking into the cloth bags. That could get ugly. Especially if the juice leaks through the cloth bag into the upholstery of the car seats. It could start smelling like something died in there.

I hadn't thought about this for a long time, but when my friend lived on the Navy (maybe Marine) base in Florida, she said they were super fussy about recycling. If you mixed recycleables in with your regular trash and the trash man noticed it, he would dump all of your trash out on the ground and go on to the next house. I guess the embarrassment from that happening to you just one time would keep you from ever forgetting again. This was close to 20 years ago, so I don't know if they still do that.

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You don't want your compost pile to wet or it will start to attract flies, gnats, mosquitoes. Let it dry out don't add any water till its dry.

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