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Old 06-11-2010, 11:00 PM   #16
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Okay, you guys got me motivated to do some more work on this. The wife intervened and said I needed to do something to catch all the drywall dust from sanding, so here's the latest.





Not very fancy, but it works.


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Old 06-11-2010, 11:26 PM   #17
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Heheh, I have done the same thing on a small patch. Had it a little tighter though. Hope the tape holds until you are finished. If it drops with very much dust in it, you may sleep on the couch for a night or two.

Btw, you mudding does look bad for someone that does not do it very much and did not go out any further than you did.

Some of my first attemps were very rough. I used way too much mud.
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Old 06-11-2010, 11:34 PM   #18
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Thanks. After I get this sanded and painted I can try out my new Dewalt crown molding stops so I can replace the molding I had to remove to fix the drywall above the 6 panel cabinets. http://www.amazon.com/DeWalt-DW7084-...6317163&sr=8-1
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Do you guys use mud straight out of the bucket? I might for a bedding coat, according to how the particular bucket of mud is working.

As far as what primer, I would feel comfortable with any good water based primer.

P.S. I have only used dawn in regular mud, not setting mud. I don't do enough dw work to argue the point. I just know it works for me, especially on the finish coat.
I use mud straight out of the bucket AFTER I ADD WATER & make it workable.

I trust you on the Dawn soap idea, i dont think you would steer anyone wrong.

So paint the wall with a water based primer before starting mudwork ??!! Sounds like a pain in the butt. What is the logic behind it?
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Old 06-12-2010, 07:53 AM   #20
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The only time I have ever primed a painted surface bsfore mudding is when I have repaired damage dow to the rock itself. Then I used an oil based primer to seal the rock before mudding. When dry, I prime again and paint. These are times when the paper on the rock gets torn from someone removing wallpaper.

Not sure about the logic, something about adhesion (never had a problem) and maybe causing pock holes fish eyes, whatever in the mud as it dries.

I don't understand it, I guess because I have never experience a problem with it sticking to the paint. May depend on the sheen of the paint, I just don't know.
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I use mud straight out of the bucket AFTER I ADD WATER & make it workable.

I trust you on the Dawn soap idea, i dont think you would steer anyone wrong.

So paint the wall with a water based primer before starting mud work ??!! Sounds like a pain in the butt. What is the logic behind it?
I was referring to what some say about priming a painted surface before mudding it. Like I said, I have never had a problem with regular green lid mud sticking to a painted surface. In fact, I have used blue lid light weight for cracks.

I probably would prime the whole ceiling because spot priming can sometimes cause problems. Might can spot prime with no heavy/thick outer lines and sand the whole wall to get the texture even overall.

According to what the ceiling/wall looked like, I might would prime the whole thing and paint. That way, I know the surface texture would be even.
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For a small area like that I wouldn't sand at all. Use a damp sponge. If you get it too thick or rough then use a pot sponge with a rough green side and a soft sponge side. Use the rough side to clean off the rough stuff and the sponge side for finish work.

Just use care not to rub the wet sponge on the paper surface of the drywall. It will roughen it up.
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I have used a sponge a few times. It will cut down the dust. I think there is a slight learning curve for sponge use.
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I probably would prime the whole ceiling because spot priming can sometimes cause problems. Might can spot prime with no heavy/thick outer lines and sand the whole wall to get the texture even overall.

According to what the ceiling/wall looked like, I might would prime the whole thing and paint. That way, I know the surface texture would be even.
Prime the ceiling with a special primer paint of simply a cheap flat paint?
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No special primer. I have not used KilzII (water based), but I have not heard anything good about it. Just do the patch, either sand or sponge smooth, prime with a good primer, lightly sand, tack patch and paint.

I have had good luck with original Kilz oil based and Bulls Eye water based interior/exterior.

If you spot prime, try to feather the primer on the edge so you do not leave a thick edge.

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