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Vertical and Paper tape 2 18.18%
Vertical and Mesh 0 0%
Horizonial and Paper 5 45.45%
Horizonial and Mesh 5 45.45%
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Old 01-07-2011, 09:28 PM   #16
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Vertical or Horizonal & Papertape or Plastic mesh?


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why do you have butt joints with vertical? Unless you are running taller than you can get drywall, you will have no butt joints with vertical if you plan your installation right.

and shame on you guys for not being able to hang a 4X12X 5/8" sheet of drywall by yourself. It only weighs 105 pounds. Sounds like some of you guys need some Wheaties!!


and for typical joints, always use paper tape. It resists shifting between the joined sheets and helps prevent cracks.

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Thank you EVERYONE for your input, I have picked up quite a bit of information from this thread. (A special thank to Redmanblackdog, that was an excellent writeup ) HOPEFULLY I will be starting this weekend! Will post pics!

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Looking at the size of your rooms there is no need for a vertical joint anywhere except the inside corners. Count your blessings and go horizontal there is not only less lineal footage of taping a horizontal mid height joint is just easier to tape and fill. That is both by hand and with tape machines and mud boxes.
The only time we do vertical is in commercial with 5/8". For fire code regulations the joint must land on a solid surface. For your 7'6" odd ceiling heights chek out the Wallboarder's Buddy to rip all the sheets down. I had some guys using it with odd ceiling heights and a stack of 54" X 12' drywall. They did the whole house with it.
With your situation put the cut sheet on the bottom and jam them up with a pannel lifter 1/2" off the floor. That way there is no tapered edge to throw the angle off for the baseboard instalation
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Looking at the size of your rooms there is no need for a vertical joint anywhere except the inside corners. Count your blessings and go horizontal there is not only less lineal footage of taping a horizontal mid height joint is just easier to tape and fill. That is both by hand and with tape machines and mud boxes.
The only time we do vertical is in commercial with 5/8". For fire code regulations the joint must land on a solid surface. For your 7'6" odd ceiling heights chek out the Wallboarder's Buddy to rip all the sheets down. I had some guys using it with odd ceiling heights and a stack of 54" X 12' drywall. They did the whole house with it.
With your situation put the cut sheet on the bottom and jam them up with a pannel lifter 1/2" off the floor. That way there is no tapered edge to throw the angle off for the baseboard instalation
Makes perfect sense to me! Cheers
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I do have a question for all the horizontal guys.


what is the support provided for the joint that is between the studs? It would appear that is simply a free floating joint and would be susceptible to pressure that could cause damage. While drywall is rigid, it surely isn't so rigid it can't be made to flex when pressure is applied.
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are you referring to the horizontal seam between the sheets?? the drywall is more than rigid enough for a 16" or 24" span.

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The rolled paper on a tapered edge is the added strength, going horizontally or perpendicular to the members. Sheetrock isn't strong enough on the butt end for those spans, a butt joint should be breaking on a framing member.

Masterofall was right, commercial is the only time they use vertical for shear support and fire. Not needed on a Residential application. Except where you can save board or time.

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Horizontal with mesh on the flats and paper on the angles (corners).
And as previously stated. Only use quick set mud with the fiberglass mesh tape (first coat only).

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