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ddawg16 08-15-2013 09:35 AM

Vert or Horz?
 
I know it's been asked before....but slightly different situation here.

Wall is 9' high....18' long.

If I go horz....I'm going to have 54' of the easy joints....you know where the beveled edge of the drywall sheet gives you plenty of depth for tape and mud....this includes the 1' wide strip of drywall at the bottom of the wall.

I will also end up with 3 butt joints which are a real PIA to tape and mud compared to the sides.

If I install the sheets vert...I end up with 36' of those nice drywall seams....that's assuming all my sheets fall exactly on 4' spacing (I'm pretty sure I got all my stud spacing correct)....and I would have NO butt joints.

The vert method will result in more waste...but...after doing the first 2 rooms...the cost of the drywall is NOTHING compared to the labor involved trying to clean up the seams. I am now a big believer in the "Your sheet of drywall can never be big enough)...screw holes are a lot easier to mud than butt joints.

Willie T 08-15-2013 12:14 PM

Use "Butt Boards".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGjaGfeS4ss

Beepster 08-15-2013 01:32 PM

I followed Willies's advice and built my own butt boards for a ceiling. Like you, I was adverse to using butt boards unless absolutely necessary. This was necessary as the ceiling was greater than 12' x 12'. It turned out OK, you can not tell where I added them.

If you use them, the only piece of advice I would add is to start all the drywall screws along the butt board and pull them up tight evenly, taking turns on each one.

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Beepster 08-15-2013 01:42 PM

ooops

SquishyBall 08-15-2013 01:59 PM

I would get 4' x 9' sheets and go vertical on that wall. You'll have almost no waste and all easy joints.

Willie T 08-15-2013 02:36 PM

Get used to Butt Boards, and you will never fear another butt joint.... They just no longer are a problem.

But do check with your AHJ.... some of the old inspectors balk at new things.

ddawg16 08-15-2013 02:51 PM

Where do you get them?

Willie T 08-15-2013 02:57 PM

Some lumber stores carry them.... or the video I posted should direct you. I make mine from cheap 1/2" CDX plywood and cardboard.

PH: 800-874-2333
FAX: 800-644-0216

www.trim-tex.com
info@trim-tex.com

ToolSeeker 08-15-2013 03:51 PM

use 54"x12' boards horizontal and I have found not worth the aggravation to make, just buy mine from Trim Tex. Have 2 boxes out in the garage now. Can buy online or at local drywall supplier. Have never seen them in big box store.

jeffnc 08-16-2013 11:45 PM

Max drywall length is 16', so you can't be helped there. Install vertically with 9' long drywall, or install horizontally with 54" wide drywall. Don't mess with the extra 1' strip.

Nailbags 08-19-2013 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddawg16 (Post 1229563)
I know it's been asked before....but slightly different situation here.

Wall is 9' high....18' long.

If I go horz....I'm going to have 54' of the easy joints....you know where the beveled edge of the drywall sheet gives you plenty of depth for tape and mud....this includes the 1' wide strip of drywall at the bottom of the wall.

I will also end up with 3 butt joints which are a real PIA to tape and mud compared to the sides.

If I install the sheets vert...I end up with 36' of those nice drywall seams....that's assuming all my sheets fall exactly on 4' spacing (I'm pretty sure I got all my stud spacing correct)....and I would have NO butt joints.

The vert method will result in more waste...but...after doing the first 2 rooms...the cost of the drywall is NOTHING compared to the labor involved trying to clean up the seams. I am now a big believer in the "Your sheet of drywall can never be big enough)...screw holes are a lot easier to mud than butt joints.

If you buy sheetrock that is 54" x 16' you will have one seam to tape! Going horizontal. Just saying work smarter not harder.

jeffnc 08-19-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nailbags (Post 1231228)
If you buy sheetrock that is 54" x 16' you will have one seam to tape! Going horizontal. Just saying work smarter not harder.

18' walls = butt joints with horizontal.

Nailbags 08-20-2013 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffnc (Post 1231569)
18' walls = butt joints with horizontal.

Not if you use a butt board. Apparently you never used them? Still one seam= less mud less tape less hassle one butt board = zero problems. Smart work not hard work.

jeffnc 08-20-2013 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nailbags (Post 1231633)
Not if you use a butt board. Apparently you never used them?

I've used Butt Boards, Rock Splicers, EZ Backers, and homemade back blockers. Call the joint whatever you want, you said if you use 16' drywall he'd only have 1 seam, and no matter how you look at it, it's not true.

ddawg16 08-20-2013 01:57 AM

Thanks for all the input guys.....

I'm faced with a few logistic issues....one of them being that my wife 'struggles' to help me lift the 12' sheets. 1/2" is not too bad....but them 5/8" jobs....well....lets just say I had to have a friend come over yesterday to help me carry 6 sheets of 4x12 up the stairs......

Each day I gain a new appreciation what drywallers.....but an 'appreciation' that is more than my wallet.....

On a positive note....my $125 drywall lift that I got off CL is more than paying for itself.....


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