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Old 10-27-2013, 12:42 PM   #1
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Since i'm doing half of the kitchen at a time, I won't be able to texture the entire room at once.

So the first option is to apply the texture now, and try to get an uneven edge on the piece of sheetrock closest to the second half of the kitchen so that when I shoot that side of the room there won't be a nice clean straight line there that looks funny in the middle of the room.

Second option would be to just go ahead and paint now, install cabinets finish the other side of the room texture the entire room, and paint over the first half of the room that gets texture over the paint.


Is it a problem to shoot texture on top of paint? Will I need to prime the textured area again if I put it on top of the paint?


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#1 Never a good idea to have textured walls or ceiling in a kitchen or bathroom.
#2 It needs to be done all at one time or it's not going to match.

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Smooth walls and ceilings are easier to keep clean. Especially important for a kitchen. They are more desirable in most locations in the country than texture, as texture is traditionally done to enable production builders to hide a sloppy drywall job. It takes more skill to do a nice smooth wall, but it's always the best choice.
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Another vote against texture.
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I'd love to have smooth walls and ceiling, but I don't think that my drywall skills are that great. They're not terrible, I feel like i'm doing a very decent job, and even one some people might pay for, but I don't know if it would actually look good without the texture, and with my level of experience it's going to be hard to tell until the paint goes on. Any pointers?

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It would be the correct time to try, both kitchens and baths are usually smaller rooms in terms of open wall space. From the sound you have some drywall skills, in what areas do you feel you need help.
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It would be the correct time to try, both kitchens and baths are usually smaller rooms in terms of open wall space. From the sound you have some drywall skills, in what areas do you feel you need help.
I'm just not sure where to stop feathering. For example, I have some round bullnose around a doorway, and there is an obvious angle from the bullnose to the drywall edge. I don't know if it's visible, but I know it's there, and the edge of it is not exactly straight looking. I only have a 12" trowel, but I don't know if I should try to go a little wider than that even. What about inside corners? Do I need to try and feather them out further than the inside corner tool allows?

The good news is that I have no butt joints, so I won't have to worry about trying to get those just right.

The other thing I just came up with is that I don't know if the drywall paper is smooth enough for that smooth look. So that means that I'll have to put a thin layer of mud over the entire sheet, right?
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I'm just not sure where to stop feathering. For example, I have some round bullnose around a doorway, and there is an obvious angle from the bullnose to the drywall edge. I don't know if it's visible, but I know it's there, and the edge of it is not exactly straight looking. I only have a 12" trowel, but I don't know if I should try to go a little wider than that even. What about inside corners? Do I need to try and feather them out further than the inside corner tool allows?

The good news is that I have no butt joints, so I won't have to worry about trying to get those just right.

The other thing I just came up with is that I don't know if the drywall paper is smooth enough for that smooth look. So that means that I'll have to put a thin layer of mud over the entire sheet, right?
Let's go one step at a time.
Take your drywall knife or trowel and put the edge on your corner, if you see light under it then you need to build it up. If it rocks then it is too high and you need to sand some off. Bullnose bead is hard to get straight. Did you install the bullnose? A 12" trowel is OK but when you mud the first coat should only be about 6", the 2nd coat about 8" and the 3rd coat put on about 10" then when you take off each coat it feathers the edge. If you put all coats on 12" you will get a hump and it will be uneven and a large build up on the edges.
Now for the inside corners you need a roll of paper tape, a 4 or 5" drywall knife I have tried, in fact I own 3 inside corner knifes and have never gotten them to work. Take your 4" knife and apply mud to both sides of the corner cover the corner but not very thick because most of it is coming back off. Look at your paper tape it has a crease down the middle. fold it along the crease and put it in the corner take your 4" knife and push the tape into the mud. Now run your knife from the top down as far as you can then from the bottom up do the same. Do this on both sides of the corner. You should have removed most of the mud and still be able to see the tape. Let this dry. next day do just one side of the corner let it dry then do the other side. This will take longer but is easier than trying to do both side at the same time.
Between coats take your knife and scrape off any goobers or ridges before you re-coat don't worry about low spots your next coat will fill them in. Remember thin coats, after 2 coats it's OK if you can still see the tape.
There are some really good videos on you tube that may help you too.
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What about the rest of the room where there are no joints? Can I just paint the drywall or should I put a very thin coat of mud over the entire thing?

Thanks, this is very helpful.
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What about the rest of the room where there are no joints? Can I just paint the drywall or should I put a very thin coat of mud over the entire thing?

Thanks, this is very helpful.
Just prime and paint and be sure to prime your drywall mud as it will absorb paint different from the drywall its self and without prime you stand a chance of what we call flashing. This means your mud joints will look different.
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Just prime and paint and be sure to prime your drywall mud as it will absorb paint different from the drywall its self and without prime you stand a chance of what we call flashing. This means your mud joints will look different.
Got it. :-) while I'm at it, I should ask for suggestions on brand of paint that works best in kitchens/baths since I'm approaching that milestone.
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What about the rest of the room where there are no joints? Can I just paint the drywall or should I put a very thin coat of mud over the entire thing?

Thanks, this is very helpful.
What you want is to skim coat the wall. this can be a two man job or a one man job just how fast you work. I always have some to help me. What you do is get a 5 gallon bucket a 9in roller heavy nap. thin the mud to about pancake batter right out of the bucket roll the mud one the walls and have the guy helping you use a 12" knife take it off the wall leaving a skim coat let it dry and you have a baby bottom smooth finish.
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I thought of another one. How do I keep the rust off of my tools? :-(
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The easy one WD-40 spray a little on after you clean them.
To skim coat your walls will serve no purpose. Since it is new drywall a coat of primer and paint as too what brand that's always subjective so I'll put it this way. Use a paint you get from a paint store be it Sherwin Williams, Ben Moore, PPg/Porter ect. you should be fine. They all have kitchen and bath paints.
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The easy one WD-40 spray a little on after you clean them.
To skim coat your walls will serve no purpose. Since it is new drywall a coat of primer and paint as too what brand that's always subjective so I'll put it this way. Use a paint you get from a paint store be it Sherwin Williams, Ben Moore, PPg/Porter ect. you should be fine. They all have kitchen and bath paints.
the pourpose of skim coating is to to get a even texture and constant medium through the whole prodject. what you achive in skim coating is eliminating the trasferance from paper to mud, were by having a equal medium when you apply your primer and paint. ever wonder why after you do the primer and you come back to put the first coat on it looks all crappy? because of the un equal of the medium of paper to mud. putting the skim coat on takes that out and gives you a perfect level 5 finish.

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