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Old 09-10-2011, 10:34 PM   #16
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Drywall ceiling first as the walls will then support the ceiling's perimeter for less tape cracks from truss uplift-- called a "floating corner" here, (strapping is also covered): http://gypsum.org/pdf/GA-216-2010.html

Read all of these tips: http://www.finehomebuilding.com/PDF/Free/021174058.pdf

http://bestdrywall.com/files/ReduceCallbacks.pdf

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I read the fine home building article and they show seams in between joists. Am I reading that right? I figured you wouldn't want an seam just floating between the joists.

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I read the fine home building article and they show seams in between joists. Am I reading that right? I figured you wouldn't want an seam just floating between the joists.
If you're talking about what is shown on Page 4, YES you do want to float the butt seam directly between two joists.

This is one of the latest advancements in drywall hanging (about 10 years old now) that enables you to now make butt joints without the nasty 'hump' we've fought for decades.
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Thanks that is good to know. I figured I would have to get the edges of the sheets under a joist or stud. So I just have them in between two joists with nothing behind the seam right?

I suppose you really need to make sure all the joists are lined up or the edges of the two sheets won't be the same level.
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Thanks that is good to know. I figured I would have to get the edges of the sheets under a joist or stud. So I just have them in between two joists with nothing behind the seam right?

I suppose you really need to make sure all the joists are lined up or the edges of the two sheets won't be the same level.
No, this conclusion is not correct at all ! Please go read Page 4 of the PDF. ALL of Page 4. (labeled #61)

You MUST use a Buttboard , and break as close to the center of the space between joists as you possibly can.

Otherwise do it the old way only....... break the joint on a joist.
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Good point....... I did a quick check of the UBC, IBC, and IRC- all require framing behind the end butt joints. http://nationalgypsum.com/products/..%5CFile%5C1046.pdf

Thought I read somewhere about solid blocking or backing there for a substitute, still looking.....
Anyone?

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When you say framing do you mean a stud or just a buttboard?

I found this page that talks about buttboards so I think I get what those are now.

http://www.finehomebuilding.com/how-...tt-joints.aspx
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“All edges and ends of gypsum board shall occur on the framing members, except those edges and ends that are perpendicular to the framing members.”
http://publicecodes.citation.com/ico...002_par010.htm


That would include strapping or any material meeting the minimum required by Code. Not butt boards. Still checking.........


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You were asking about finding the outlet behind the drywall.
Here is a trick I saw done before.
Take a tube of lip stick. Run it around the edge of the outlet. Postion the board where it will be hung and press it again the outlet box.
there you have the box area marked, make sure it is the back of the dry wall. You can cut out the hole there or make a hole through the dry wall and then cut out once it is hung.
I just would not use a dark color of lipstick.
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You were asking about finding the outlet behind the drywall.
Here is a trick I saw done before.
Take a tube of lip stick. Run it around the edge of the outlet. Postion the board where it will be hung and press it again the outlet box.
there you have the box area marked, make sure it is the back of the dry wall. You can cut out the hole there or make a hole through the dry wall and then cut out once it is hung.
I just would not use a dark color of lipstick.
Excellent tip

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