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rygar 07-03-2013 03:29 PM

question about what to do with drywall and lack of studs
 
I am putting in new drywall, backsplash and wall mounted range hood in the kitchen.

Here is my dilemma, while ripping out some of the drywall that i have, i found that i will not have a drywall edge on a stud, here is what i mean:

http://s8.postimg.org/oavwfck2t/drywall.jpg

I have the locations of the studs marked with brown lines.
The drywall will be cut up to the holes in the wall on the left side.

What can i do to support the drywall properly on the end?

gregzoll 07-03-2013 04:08 PM

Cut what you have back to the studs, to make a clean patch. What you have know is too torn up to do it right.

rygar 07-03-2013 04:18 PM

Ideas i have had:

get a bigenough piece of 5/8" plywood for the general area and attach drywall to the plywood

take some left over 2x4's i have and try to run them horizontally between the two studs to try to mke some kind of support

what i have researched:

butt boards and butt hangers

the left side has cabinets there and i can't remove those unfortunately.

Willie T 07-03-2013 04:32 PM

Greg told you the only way to do it right. (Sorry Mods, if that was a bit too direct.)

rygar 07-03-2013 05:02 PM

here is a picture of what is like now.

http://s21.postimg.org/iwjp4p8pj/photo.jpg

this should better demonstrate where the floating joint could be.

gregzoll 07-03-2013 05:13 PM

Now you need to take down the cabinets. Quit making more work for yourself, and do it right the first time.

You always do drywall work and any painting before cabinets even get put up in a Kitchen remodel. Same goes for any electrical work.

Willie T 07-03-2013 05:43 PM

I'm seldom speechless, but I honestly can't think of a word to say..... :eek:

ToolSeeker 07-03-2013 05:44 PM

I guess i am not understanding the question. I thought the problem was there was not a stud to fasten to at the ends. If that is it over that short a span why can't he use hot mud and tape and screw to the available studs.

gregzoll 07-03-2013 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToolSeeker (Post 1211145)
I guess i am not understanding the question. I thought the problem was there was not a stud to fasten to at the ends. If that is it over that short a span why can't he use hot mud and tape and screw to the available studs.

The OP could have, if they did not go past the studs. Now they are going to have to go to the next set of studs to be able to make the patch correct.

And what is with that Romex flying between the two sets of cabinets. It should be behind the drywall, not flying like that. :shakes_head:

This is now Renovation Realities in reality on DIY Chatroom.

rygar 07-03-2013 07:12 PM

@gregzoll
the cabinets have been up, i took down the backsplash that was on the wall.

If i need to take off the cabinet then maybe i should i just dont know if i can get back up exactly where it was

also, that isnt romex going side to side its just a regular extension cord, will be behind the drywall.

my only concern is that all the way to the left the 2" overhand of drywall from the stud. i am worried that the tape will crack in time.

should i sister anotehr 2x4 right there?

gregzoll 07-03-2013 07:30 PM

Again, you need to now got to the next set of studs to fix that mess. That means taking down the cabinets.

All you did was create a larger job for yourself.

As for the tape cracking, tape does not crack, poor mud jobs and incorrectly installed drywall, are why the compound cracks over time.

kwikfishron 07-03-2013 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregzoll (Post 1211192)
That means taking down the cabinets.

No he doesn't...you can easily attach enough backing to the left of that stud for drywall.

sublime2 07-03-2013 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rygar (Post 1211186)
@gregzoll
the cabinets have been up, i took down the backsplash that was on the wall.

If i need to take off the cabinet then maybe i should i just dont know if i can get back up exactly where it was

also, that isnt romex going side to side its just a regular extension cord, will be behind the drywall.

my only concern is that all the way to the left the 2" overhand of drywall from the stud. i am worried that the tape will crack in time.

should i sister anotehr 2x4 right there?

The right way to do this is to remove cabinets as needed to replace the rock where it will be secured to the studs.
So the rock above the opening needs to come down also all the way to the top plate and the studs on either side of that opening.
Btw, the cabinets will likely be secured to the ones next to them not just to the wall.

sublime2 07-03-2013 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwikfishron (Post 1211195)

No he doesn't...you can easily attach enough backing to the left of that stud for drywall.

How would he go about doing that?
Enlighten us.
Oh, and what about to the right,
Same thing?

rygar 07-03-2013 07:50 PM

will attempt to remove cabinet.

best steps to take to guarantee its placed back in the exact spot?


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