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Old 12-16-2011, 12:43 PM   #31
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i've had better luck with coarse thread vs fine thread dw screws.

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Old 12-16-2011, 01:13 PM   #32
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now the other stuff i am confused on. can you please explain what corner bead is exactly? that's the corner edges that meet for ceiling and wall right? and what does it do? also, what is paper bead?and outside corner? thank you! i know i am asking all the noob questions here.
federer, corner bead=is a metal strip normal 8' long that goes on outside square corners. it's maybe 27gauge metal bent to 90 degrees. it has holes punched everywhere, smaller holes for nails/screws, larger holes for mud to go into to hold the mud while drying. personally, I prefer my beads nailed on, with a nail in at least every other hole. and I like my beads taped also simply for extra strength. if corner bead is not installed straight and square? your corner wont be either.

paper tape= is simply that. it's 2" wide 250' long, has a crease in the center for bending to make inside corners. the square inside corners where wall meets ceiling. for vaulted ceilings, where the corners are not square, there is a paper bead, much like paper tape but has a very thin piece of metal in the center = paper bead. this bead requires a true professional, who care about their work! as it's very difficult to keep straight.

there are also expansion beads and slip beads for commercial buildings with straight rolls over 100 feet long. which are of no use to you in your project, but do exist.

I hope this gives you some extra knowledge? while watching the progress of your very expensive contractor! you're paying him, make sure it's done right!
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now the other stuff i am confused on. can you please explain what corner bead is exactly? that's the corner edges that meet for ceiling and wall right? and what does it do? also, what is paper bead?and outside corner? thank you! i know i am asking all the noob questions here.
federer, corner bead=is a metal strip normal 8' long that goes on outside square corners. it's maybe 27gauge metal bent to 90 degrees. it has holes punched everywhere, smaller holes for nails/screws, larger holes for mud to go into to hold the mud while drying. personally, I prefer my beads nailed on, with a nail in at least every other hole. and I like my beads taped also simply for extra strength. if corner bead is not installed straight and square? your corner wont be either.

paper tape= is simply that. it's 2" wide 250' long, has a crease in the center for bending to make inside corners. the square inside corners where wall meets ceiling. for vaulted ceilings, where the corners are not square, there is a paper bead, much like paper tape but has a very thin piece of metal in the center = paper bead. this bead requires a true professional, who care about their work! as it's very difficult to keep straight.

there are also expansion beads and slip beads for commercial buildings with straight rolls over 100 feet long. which are of no use to you in your project, but do exist.

I hope this gives you some extra knowledge? while watching the progress of your very expensive contractor! you're paying him, make sure it's done right!
thank you so much for taking the time to answer these questions. now its clear to me. so thats what outside and inside corners mean.
now i dont have a vaulted ceiling but if you look in the pic there is a slant angle in my ceiling at about maybe 40degree? so is this where the paper bead needs to go?

also is 1/2in ok for the ceiling thats upstairs? thanks for your input! you sound like a pro.
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yes federer, paper bead should work fine on 40 degree angle. if your taper will use it? how straight will end up? is up to him and his skills, as well as how straight the corner is to begin with? nobody can make chicken salad out of chicken poop. if they do? don't eat it!

and 1/2" should be okay if nails are 16"oc?

so glad to be of some help. a pro? I did drywall for over 30 years, before a stroke set me down next to my office window to watch the world go on by.

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yes federer, paper bead should work fine on 40 degree angle. if your taper will use it? how straight will end up? is up to him and his skills, as well as how straight the corner is to begin with? nobody can make chicken salad out of chicken poop. if they do? don't eat it!

and 1/2" should be okay if nails are 16"oc?

so glad to be of some help. a pro? I did drywall for over 30 years, before a stroke set me down next to my office window to watch the world go on by.

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They also make a plastic strip, the same material as what they use for round corner bead, flat but perforated down the center for easy bending, that you press into the mud, then tape over, to absorb all the imperfections in a transitional area.
All the tapers I have seen work in these types of areas use an angular bead of some sort as there is no way to make a straight line in an imperfect hanging job.

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wow 30 years. sorry about your early retirement....
my contractor didnt buy any bead at all....work starts monday. pictures to come! hopefully you guys approve!

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