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Old 07-18-2013, 03:37 PM   #1
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Hi Everyone

i'm trying to tackle this project myself and it'll be my first time drywalling the ceiling as a homeowner.

there was a water leak which has now been fixed.

i've replaced the drywall in the large hole but not the small hole yet. as you can see from the photos (hopefully i attached correctly), i didnt do a great job and there are some gaps and not 100% flush with the ceiling. as a DIYer, would it be easier if i use mesh rather than taping the joints? i figure my process would be:

1. mesh or tape
2. add 2 layers of compound (slight sanding in between if necessary)... can i use a 4-5" scraper vs a larger trowel for this?
3. sand flat as possible after 2nd layer is dry
4. prime entire area
5. use texture spray (i doubt i can get it to match that well but i am ok with that)
6. paint 1 coat (with same ceiling paint), maybe 2 coats if necessary and feather into the rest of the ceiling

i dont expect it to be perfect but for the low cost of materials, i figure i give it a try and hope that it turns out "reasonable"

if it turns out unacceptable to my wife and i, we'll just get someone to do it professionally.

for the small hole, can i just put 2 screws into the replacement drywall?

hopefully some of you can give me some tips. thanks in advance!

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Old 07-18-2013, 07:59 PM   #2
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You have the drywall upside down in the big patch---white side out---

I always use paper tape--the mesh is okay I suppose but I have better results with paper---I suggest you get a small tub of 'multi-purpose' green lid---that one is a setting compound and contains glue.

Once the paper is set --then top it with two or more thin coats of the same mud---or switch to the 'light weight' blue lid for the final top coats--Blue lid is softer and much easier to sand.

Ceiling patches often need to be feathered out a long way to prevent the patch from being seen--some times 24" or more----so be patient--several thin coats always look better than one or two thick ones---

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shoot, i'll have to flip it around. thanks
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yep agree with mike we use paper tape also..but we prefill any large gaps with a fast set mud first like a 20 minute dry time .then tape and feather out as mentioned 2-3 thin coats at least 24" wide ben sr
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With the big patch what you have are 4 butt joints and as stated it will need to feathered out wide, 2 coats probably won't be enough. And you need a couple drywall knifes an 8" and a 12" should work.with that large a patch and multiple coats I would go ahead and get a bucket. Use paper tape, not mesh. Yes 2 screws should work for small patch. Not a bd idea to pre fill the gaps with USG easy sand in the white bag. It's a powder you mix with water and is stronger than joint compound, just a little insurance, as large repairs tend to crack over time. I would suggest 45 minute.
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I use no tape at all.

1. Square up your hole
2. Cut a piece of D/W 1" larger than the hole
3. Score the piece, on the back, the size of the hole (maybe a tad smaller)
4. Peel off the board, leaving the paper there
5. Score and peel off a 1" strip of paper around the hole, (maybe a tad LARGER) and remove the paper. (Your patch flap edges will sit down in this peeled-off strip)
6. Slather up the areas where the patch piece will fit into the hole (and all the peeled paper edges) with D/W mud
7 Slide the patch into the wall hole, and let it set up (make sure it is flush and smooth)

You can go back after this has set up, and fill in any edge shallows.
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I use no tape at all.

1. Square up your hole
2. Cut a piece of D/W 1" larger than the hole
3. Score the piece, on the back, the size of the hole (maybe a tad smaller)
4. Peel off the board, leaving the paper there
5. Score and peel off a 1" strip of paper around the hole, (maybe a tad LARGER) and remove the paper. (Your patch flap edges will sit down in this peeled-off strip)
6. Slather up the areas where the patch piece will fit into the hole (and all the peeled paper edges) with D/W mud
7 Slide the patch into the wall hole, and let it set up (make sure it is flush and smooth)

You can go back after this has set up, and fill in any edge shallows.
just what I would have said
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Problem with that, it only works for small patches like in the second picture, not large section.
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correct.
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Where'd you get that idea?

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