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hurricane87 12-22-2009 07:56 AM

New Home, cracks in drywall. Whats the cause? fix?
 
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I bought a new home 6 months ago and just recently I started noticing cracks in my drywall. They are all in the corners of rooms. Almost all the corners of my house has a hairline crack but these in particular are pretty bad.

I am wondering what caused this? I have been doing research and think it might be settling cracks, but I want some opinions to see if it might be something more serious. Its a pretty bad eye sore.

Any suggestions on repairs?

user1007 12-22-2009 09:06 AM

Someone forgot to mud and tape your corner joints.

Your new house will settle but the corners should not look like this in new construction unless you have major foundation problems too.

tpolk 12-22-2009 09:11 AM

be worth digging out that bad corner see if there is tape but that does'nt look like a tape prob in first pic. how old is home?

Scuba_Dave 12-22-2009 09:13 AM

Where are you located ?
Is it a 1 floor , house, 2 floor....happens on all floors ?
Basement, crawl space or slab ?
If basement any signs of cracks in foundation ?
Have you contacted the builder ?

Bob Mariani 12-22-2009 12:23 PM

Check that these corners even have tape. They do not look like it. If taped and a foundation issue the crack would be more ragged. If the studs where two wet (this happens too often) the cracks should not be this long. If you see that no tape was used you will know to look for many many more low quality workmanship in the house.

Daniel Holzman 12-22-2009 01:05 PM

These are vertical cracks, which is inconsistent with settlement. Settlement cracks are almost always diagonal, and certainly would not appear exclusively in the corners. I go with the theory that the corners were not taped properly, or possible not taped at all.

hurricane87 12-22-2009 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tpolk (Post 370656)
be worth digging out that bad corner see if there is tape but that does'nt look like a tape prob in first pic. how old is home?

home is 6 months old.

hurricane87 12-22-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Scuba_Dave (Post 370658)
Where are you located ?
Is it a 1 floor , house, 2 floor....happens on all floors ?
Basement, crawl space or slab ?
If basement any signs of cracks in foundation ?
Have you contacted the builder ?

Located Southeastern Massachusetts near Cape Cod. Its a split level raised ranch, only see see problem on main level. There are 2 hairline settle cracks on inside of foundation but nothing serious.

hurricane87 12-22-2009 02:13 PM

Im going to try to get in touch with builder, him and I haven't had the best relationship. After the first few repairs he stopped answering my phone calls. As much as I try to think otherwise I do realize he half-***** my home. I don't know what action I can take to get him to take responsibility other than legal action which is sure to be an expensive option. :furious:

Excuse me for being a total newbie (first time homeowner) but how easy would it be to fix the problem if it was that the corners weren't taped? What would the repair consist of?

Thanks to all.

tpolk 12-22-2009 03:09 PM

it is mind numbing to me that all corners would not have tape. I have seen improper fastening of corner framing move, have also seen movement in corners if framing was closed up to soon after being wet and not drying properly (which happens alot in todays hurry up finish it). Have also seen movement from not overlapping top plates , just butting walls. sounds like some excavation called for.

RickyBobby 12-22-2009 03:10 PM

"Excuse me for being a total newbie (first time homeowner) but how easy would it be to fix the problem if it was that the corners weren't taped? What would the repair consist of?"

This could turn out to be a rather big job if all of the corners are done this way. Repair would consist of taping, finishing, priming, repainting.

My concern would be that since the corners were not done properly, where the walls meet the ceilings may not have been done properly either. If a house was built and the taping step was skipped......I am at a loss for words.

Do what tpolk said, dig into the corner and see if you can peel out some tape. The corner is ruined already anyway. If it is missing, check the others and where the walls meet the ceilings. If you don't find any, I would seek legal advice on how to get the builder to make it right.

I really hope that is not the case though.

Kevin M. 12-22-2009 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tpolk (Post 370839)
it is mind numbing to me that all corners would not have tape. I have seen improper fastening of corner framing move, have also seen movement in corners if framing was closed up to soon after being wet and not drying properly (which happens alot in todays hurry up finish it). Have also seen movement from not overlapping top plates , just butting walls. sounds like some excavation called for.

HMMM! I'm was thinking the exact same thing. Maybe they failed to nail the corners correctly. It would be interesting to see what the framing looked like! I would cut a section of rock out and start pulling on the framing. Actually, the reason I am mentioning it is I just ran into that very issue last week. I grabbed a stud and moved it two inches LOL!!!

Do you have a written warranty document from your builder?

KK

HandyPete 12-22-2009 04:15 PM

I agree with everything said so far.

One other point (and correct me if I'm wrong): Sometimes the joint mud is poor quality or not the right stuff for bedding tape. I always use DuraBond or SheetRock45 for bedding and from my experiences, it make a far better joint!

_Pete

firehawkmph 12-22-2009 05:37 PM

There are many reasons for joints to crack, in addition to what's been said. I seriously doubt they omitted the tape. I would be willing to bet they did the hillbilly corner deal with one 2 x 4 overlapping the other with an offset to catch the other piece of drywall. While I have seen this a lot and not seen the same resulting cracks, if the two pieces of 2x4's were poorly nailed, I could see this happening. It doesn't really take much movement to crack paper tape.
If the house was built during lousy weather, temporary heat like kerosene or propane, along with all the added moisture of paint, drywall mud, etc. this would not be uncommon as the house dries out and the wood shrinks.
Like Ricky said, start with the simplest things first. Dig in the corner a little bit and see if you see the paper tape. If you aren't sure what you are looking for, get somebody over your house that does. If there is tape, I would cut some holes on either side of the corner and see what they did underneath. Chances are your problem will be only with these two corners. Drywall is not that hard to fix, just have somebody do it that knows what they are doing. Don't practice on your own house.
BTW, did you get any nail pops?
Mike Hawkins:)

tpolk 12-22-2009 09:32 PM

like he said dont practice on your own house :laughing:


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