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5.0 02-19-2013 01:40 AM

Need help with cracked ceiling
 
Hey guys, first post, and need a little help with a ceiling repair. My roof got blow off in a wind storm and I had rain leak in for about 12 hours before I could get up on the roof to patch it. Now the ceiling in my living room is damaged. The drywall is cracked and sags down an inch or 2. It's 1/2 inch drywall with a joint compound design in it but I'm not sure how to match the texture, or if its even possible to do so. So maybe someone here with experience can recognize it or has some ideas.

2. If I can't match it, what would be the next best way to fix the ceiling. I was think about cutting out the sagging area, replacing the drywall and applying a new texture like popcorn ceiling to the entire ceiling. But do you think it would cover the existing texture or would it show through?



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oh'mike 02-19-2013 06:37 AM

How large is the room?

You will never get a good match---even an experienced pro would have trouble making that look good---

It might be a good plan to replace the sagged section--then overlay the entire ceiling with fresh drywall---
Get rid of the texture----

joecaption 02-19-2013 07:42 AM

First thing that should have happened when it started leaking was punch a hole to drain the water asap.
Second the insulation in that whole area needs to go asap before mold starts to grow.

That's some odd looking texture, I like to know how they even did it.

5.0 02-19-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 1120218)
How large is the room?

You will never get a good match---even an experienced pro would have trouble making that look good---

It might be a good plan to replace the sagged section--then overlay the entire ceiling with fresh drywall---
Get rid of the texture----

The room is 23'x 13'. I can't overlay. The area where the ceiling meets the wall isn't just a square joint. It's curved.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps44477275.jpg

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1120229)
First thing that should have happened when it started leaking was punch a hole to drain the water asap.
Second the insulation in that whole area needs to go asap before mold starts to grow.

That's some odd looking texture, I like to know how they even did it.

In hindsight there were a lot of things I would have done differently. I didn't know the roof was leaking in that spot until it was to late and the damage was done.




So any other ideas on how to fix this, keeping it somewhat cost effective? I'm already $4000 deep in repairs to the rest of the house.

I've thought about cutting the whole ceiling down and just going smooth but really would like to avoid that if possible. It's a major job I don't have time for right now.

danpik 02-19-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1120229)
That's some odd looking texture, I like to know how they even did it.

Drywall compound and a round stippling brush. We call it stomping or stomp texturing around here. We mix a 5 gal pail of joint compound with 1 gallon of flat white latex paint. Texture thickness can be varied depending on the look you want. Just did 2,000 sf about two weeks ago. customer wanted texture no more than 1/16". Should have taken pictures when I got it done. Came out real nice. Great workout for the shoulders too.

5.0 02-19-2013 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by danpik (Post 1120526)
Drywall compound and a round stippling brush. We call it stomping or stomp texturing around here. We mix a 5 gal pail of joint compound with 1 gallon of flat white latex paint. Texture thickness can be varied depending on the look you want. Just did 2,000 sf about two weeks ago. customer wanted texture no more than 1/16". Should have taken pictures when I got it done. Came out real nice. Great workout for the shoulders too.

Think it's possible to duplicate to match the rest of the ceiling?

princelake 02-20-2013 08:52 PM

i'd rip it down fix and redrywall. if you like the look of the curved corners they make a drywall crown moulding

chrisn 02-21-2013 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 5.0 (Post 1120533)
Think it's possible to duplicate to match the rest of the ceiling?

no:no:

danpik 02-21-2013 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 5.0 (Post 1120533)
Think it's possible to duplicate to match the rest of the ceiling?

It is posible. I don't think a first time atrtempt at it will get it done. I have matched some over the years. Some to the point that you could not see the repair. Others, depending on the light you could see it or not see it. Like anything in life...to get good you have to do the laps.

drywallfinisher 02-21-2013 11:32 AM

cut down and repair the damaged section. assuming you can finish the joints where they are flat and feather into the existing ceiling, this is how you create that texture. Before putting it up on the ceiling practice on a scrap piece of sheetrock first.

all the mud in your picture was put on with a roller. you'll need to mix your new mud to a consistency that will create that same depth when rolled on your new ceiling. 3/8' roller cover is fine.
when you have the mud right and you're ready to "roll". Start rolling your mud on working your way from the old to the new. It is extremely important to do this at a good pace...dont fart around.
Roll into the new ceiling about 20" across the joint and the full length of the joint.
So what you have is your mud rolled out in a "section" large enough to texture but not to laid out so mud that the mud is drying up and becomes tacky. This is important especially at this point.
because once youre happy with what you just rolled on you'll need to grab a bucket or a step ladder and cut the edge you just created on the old to new rolling. Take a 5" taping knife and pull that edge down tight to where the lap is now in the wet mud to be textured and the edge is now feather into the old.
Take your stipple brush on a handle and stomp a random pattern onto the mud you just rolled on. When stomping work your way fro the new to the old this time. This will help load your brush up with mud so when you get to the old stomp from one side of the transition to the other. so what you're doing is eliminating all the lap marks and edges. one side to the other one side to the other pulling mud off the new and putting onto the old just enough to blend the two ceilings.
repeat rolling and stomping until you completed the whole ceiling.
technique tip, you can load your stipple brush up tapping it light into the mud bucket you're using for texture. Take a bucket lid, flip it over, and stomp it until the the amount on the brush is right....what you're doing is loading up the brush to stipple thin spots...as in the transition.


Being this was your first shot at something new, here's something to consider.
Even if you didnt get a match you have a similar texture even just by technique. As a pro I can tell you that your entire ceiling, old and new, can now be textured by a pro and will cover and look as if there was never a repair. you control the outcome by how hard you sand. and you have NOT made an irreversible mistake. You'll never be able to do it if you dont attempt it. They call this DIY


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