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Old 08-27-2013, 06:08 AM   #16
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If you are starting over ---use paper tape

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YouTube is a great resource for learning to do things - a video is worth a thousand words. The problem is if you don't post the links here first, you won't know which ones are good and which are crap.
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Old 08-27-2013, 04:23 PM   #18
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YouTube is a great resource for learning to do things - a video is worth a thousand words. The problem is if you don't post the links here first, you won't know which ones are good and which are crap.
This is true I have seen and learned from you tube. I have also posted some videos from you tube that were so wrong they were funny. The sad part is there were people on the totally wrong ones saying "thanks I learned a lot". I really don't know how to do this but I would like to see maybe a section where if someone has questions about a video they could post it and we could look at it.
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:42 PM   #19
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safe to say the pros don't like using mesh on any type of repairs at all ? I don't like the fibers of the mesh tape coming loose on a cut, very annoying but always thought it was my cutting technique to blame.
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Well, I've never really cared for mesh tape. But then I've never heard of the hatred that some on this site seem to have either. Here's what Myron Ferguson has to say about it (paraphrased):

Mesh tape is commonly used for tapered seams and patching small cracks and holes. It can be used on inside corners but it's hard to keep straight, and the taping knife might cut through it or you might sand through it. I usually use it rather than paper tape on tapered seams. It's fast and easy and you don't have to worry about air bubbles under the tape like with paper. But it's not as strong. I prefer to use setting compound with it, which is stronger and cracks very little.
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Please can some one explain to me why the sanded mesh tape rapair looks like metal? I thought mesh tape was fabric with adhesive on it. I am not able to follow this work. For small holes in dry wall I have used a piece of metal grid (alumnium I think) and then dry wall compound on top. Then I sanded. Is this what is being done here?

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No Angus---that is fiberglass mesh in the picture---perhaps the photo makes it look metallic--but it's just fiberglass.
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Well, I've never really cared for mesh tape. But then I've never heard of the hatred that some on this site seem to have either. Here's what Myron Ferguson has to say about it (paraphrased):

Mesh tape is commonly used for tapered seams and patching small cracks and holes. It can be used on inside corners but it's hard to keep straight, and the taping knife might cut through it or you might sand through it. I usually use it rather than paper tape on tapered seams. It's fast and easy and you don't have to worry about air bubbles under the tape like with paper. But it's not as strong. I prefer to use setting compound with it, which is stronger and cracks very little.
I used to work for a guy who tried mesh tape he was a drywaller with many years of experience and very adept at his trade. We decided to use mesh tape because it looked easier and faster. The results were a disaster the amount of callbacks for cracks were unbelievable. The only place where we didn't notice a lot was on the flats or tapers. It was almost impossible to get straight corners or the wall to ceiling connection. It was harder to cover so the little squares didn't show thru. It was so hard to work with everywhere but the taper it was not worth the effort.
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We decided to use mesh tape because it looked easier and faster....It was so hard to work with everywhere but the taper it was not worth the effort.
Did you use setting compound that time?

I think Ferguson was also saying he doesn't use it outside of tapers. For some reason, lots of guys I know think mesh is stronger than paper. In fact I heard it so many times I was starting to think I might be wrong :-)
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We used it with hot mud and with out.Hot mud did help but still the number of callbacks were still more. It's not bad unless something moves and what house doesn't move at some point. Take a piece of mesh and hold it at opposing corners. Top right bottom left, now pull in opposite directions gently you see there is no strength and drywall mud has no strength that is why we have to tape. That is why mesh has no strength as long as nothing ever moves it is fine. And in corners paper tape is creased so you can get a nice square corner to try and do corners with mesh is a biatch if you don't cut it with your knife you sand thru it. A lot of what I do now is repair work and most of that is texture repair or cracks in drywall. A lot of times it's the HO put the mud on it to thick and it cracked when it dried or they put it on to thin and it cracked. Just be causes it sticks to the wall I really don't thick it's DIY friendly.

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