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Old 01-21-2009, 10:57 AM   #16
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I've heard of that, the wife just won't give up one of her beaters. Seriously though, the new formula USG Easy Sand claims "easier hand mixing" on the bag and I for one have found it true. Hardly any lumps mixing with a knife in the pan. Most of the time I'm using setting compound for patch work and eventually final skim with ready mix, so super smooth first coat(s) is not an issue.....
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:03 AM   #17
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This past weekend I re-modeled my sister-in-laws bathroom. Saturday, was plumbing for the new valve, added the shower head drop-ell, framing and drywalling. Sunday I finished the drywall and I started with 45 minute durabond to bed the tape, and to fill in some areas that needed a little TLC, then I switched to the 20 minute easy sand light weight setting type joint compound from USG for finishing.

One technique I used that may help others...with the 20 minute mud, apply and smooth the best you can at first. Then, clean your tools and mud pan, and by the time you're done, go back to the mud you applied. With a clean knife, scrape off any excess bumps/ridges...with LIGHT TOUCH. When the mud is about 3/4 set, you can clean corners, smooth any rough areas and get ready for the next coat. The best things is that you can apply mud to one side of a corner, then in about 30 minutes, you can do the other. WAY faster than waiting on the pre-mixed stuff to dry.

I finished her bathroom with out sanding in about 5 hours; from raw drywall to completely finished (ready for primer). If I had used the standard pre-mixed stuff...I doubt the first coat would of dried in the same time. Granted you wouldn't do this in a whole house...but for a small bath where I didn't want to drive back to her house until the next step...it worked well. One word of caution though...don't mix up a huge amount...it will set up before you can use it! (not that I'd know mind you....)

So if your thinking about using the setting type light weight compound...I'd say go for it...it has all the benefits of premixed (you can sand if you need) and the benefit of setting like durabond so you can re-coat faster. The easy sand products are available with varying setting times; 5 setting time of 8-12 minutes, 20 setting time of 20-30 minutes, 45 setting time of 30-80 minutes, 90 setting time of 85-130 minutes, and 210 setting time of 180-240 minutes.
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:30 AM   #18
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Agreed! And if it's just a small area or patch, you can speed up the process even more with a heat gun (or ordinary hair dryer).
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And your right the new setting type easy sand mixes well...follow directions though...mix let it sit for a minute, and remix...that minute of setting allows any little clumps to absorb some moisture and when it's re-mixed, it will blend in. I like the idea of using a mixer beater, I'm off to goodwill on the way outta town...
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Yeah, it really does seem like a good idea. Read it on another site somewhere. Will have to keep an eye out when garage sale "season" gets cranked back up this spring.....
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mudding is an ongoing challange. Seems sometimes it goes so so smooth and other times you fight it to get a good finish. I am very jealous of the pros. This definitly falls into the catagory where more is not better.
bubbles come from mudding over old walls that are painted.never new walls.it does not come from over mixing or at high speed mixing.stiff mud will have bubbles, add water, mix well.soap only makes mud creamy and easy to pull.try adding soap to a box with no water its still not right.mud wil bubble also if you sand each coat.only need to sand once. and thats when the job is done.even bead that has 20 on it.its all in the coat.keep the mix clean and keep the walls clean.
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mudding is an ongoing challange. Seems sometimes it goes so so smooth and other times you fight it to get a good finish. I am very jealous of the pros. This definitly falls into the catagory where more is not better.
bubbles come from mudding over old walls that are painted.never new walls.it does not come from over mixing or at high speed mixing.stiff mud will have bubbles, add water, mix well.soap only makes mud creamy and easy to pull.try adding soap to a box with no water its still not right.mud wil bubble also if you sand each coat.only need to sand once. and thats when the job is done.even bead that has 20 on it.its all in the coat.keep the mix clean and keep the walls clean.
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I do alot of eveything for the company i work for, we general contract jobs and do everything from exterior work too flooring too drywall mud and tape, cabinets, but im having trouble lately with air pockets in my mud. Im not sure if its how im mixing it or what tricks are too stop this??
add a little more water to mix.thicker mix has more bubbles and you have to pull it tighter to get them out.three coats they say.but two nice coats is just fine .all purpose for tape .lightweight for coats.
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