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Old 03-31-2013, 07:52 PM   #16
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PLASTER not tape. I would never ever ever use Sheetrock and tape. Plaster is the only way to go. No million dollar house or high end project is drywall All are plaster. Any spec book for level 5 finish requires paper tape. With that said wood frame house sheets around across studs not standing mesh level five finish would never crack done right.
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PLASTER not tape. I would never ever ever use Sheetrock and tape. Plaster is the only way to go. No million dollar house or high end project is drywall. All are plaster. Any spec book for level 5 finish requires paper tape. With that said wood frame house sheets around across studs not standing mesh level five finish would never crack done right.
Wow thanks for letting me know that dry wall is not used on million dollar homes? I better get my hawk and trowl back out and start ordering up lath. I am getting ready to sheetrock a 4,000 square foot home with sheet rock that will be worth over a half million dollars. I will inform the Home owner and GC that only Plaster is to be used. and mesh tape too.
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wait! let me inform the owners of the Paris Hotel casino in Las Vegas NV. their $760 million dollar hotel/casino has no plaster or mesh tape, anywhere.http://www.parislasvegas.com/?creati...nded_LV&kw=las Vegas Paris
and that their actual costs should be upward of a Billion dollars?

also the CEO of Cannibals soup's mansion in Princeton New Jersey and Westinghouse' CEO mansion in Pittsburgh PA. both of which took over 5000 sheets of 4'x12' drywall again with paper tape, aren't worth the multi-million dollars they'd expected them to be?

no wait! maybe " garywade78" will want tomake them aware? if you like? I'll go through my records and get addresses to write to.

Let me know I must have read the spec sheets all wrong? not impossible but not likely.

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wait! let me inform the owners of the Paris Hotel casino in Las Vegas NV. their $760 million dollar hotel/casino has no plaster or mesh tape, anywhere.http://www.parislasvegas.com/?creati...nded_LV&kw=las Vegas Paris
and that their actual costs should be upward of a Billion dollars?

also the CEO of Cannibals soup's mansion in Princeton New Jersey and Westinghouse' CEO mansion in Pittsburgh PA. both of which took over 5000 sheets of 4'x12' drywall again with paper tape, aren't worth the multi-million dollars they'd expected them to be?

no wait! maybe " garywade78" will want tomake them aware? if you like? I'll go through my records and get addresses to write to.

Let me know I must have read the spec sheets all wrong? not impossible but not likely.

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Wow thanks for letting me know that dry wall is not used on million dollar homes? I better get my hawk and trowl back out and start ordering up lath. I am getting ready to sheetrock a 4,000 square foot home with sheet rock that will be worth over a half million dollars. I will inform the Home owner and GC that only Plaster is to be used. and mesh tape too.
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No wonder my union plastering company has to travel all over the country doing plaster jobs. I've plastered every Cheesecake Factory, Peabody Essex museum, MFA museum, Mandarin Oriental hotel, 20 million dollar homes on Martha's Vineyard. In Boston all the new editions to the Simon malls, both of Tom Brady houses in Boston, numerous schools, Penn State, Boston College etc. I'm sure you could name a few commercial jobs that have Sheetrock but I haven't traveled the country plastering cause the trade is dead. My company has had a ton of jobs awarded because you could count the number of sheets after a taping job.
I've used mesh tape at my house and have never had it crack. Like I said paper tape is better any spec book requires paper tape. But to say mesh tape causes cracks is false. Cracks are caused due to poor hanging of blue board/Sheetrock, leaving gaps are what causes cracks. We have gotten off track in this thread, but mesh tape over wood framing in my experience is perfectly fine to use. It's just my opinion not fact.
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Just one question since it bad drywalling that causes cracks not movement in the framing or any settling issues. When you go in an old plastered home almost all of them have visible cracks or crack repair I guess thats from bad plastering?
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No wonder my union plastering company has to travel all over the country doing plaster jobs. I've plastered every Cheesecake Factory, Peabody Essex museum, MFA museum, Mandarin Oriental hotel, 20 million dollar homes on Martha's Vineyard. In Boston all the new editions to the Simon malls, both of Tom Brady houses in Boston, numerous schools, Penn State, Boston College etc. I'm sure you could name a few commercial jobs that have Sheetrock but I haven't traveled the country plastering cause the trade is dead. My company has had a ton of jobs awarded because you could count the number of sheets after a taping job.
I've used mesh tape at my house and have never had it crack. Like I said paper tape is better any spec book requires paper tape. But to say mesh tape causes cracks is false. Cracks are caused due to poor hanging of blue board/Sheetrock, leaving gaps are what causes cracks. We have gotten off track in this thread, but mesh tape over wood framing in my experience is perfectly fine to use. It's just my opinion not fact.
If I have a few areas where the drywall is not butted up tightly against each other and there is a small gap can the tape/spackle guy do anything to prevent it from cracking? Thanks.
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No wonder my union plastering company has to travel all over the country doing plaster jobs. I've plastered every Cheesecake Factory, Peabody Essex museum, MFA museum, Mandarin Oriental hotel, 20 million dollar homes on Martha's Vineyard. In Boston all the new editions to the Simon malls, both of Tom Brady houses in Boston, numerous schools, Penn State, Boston College etc. I'm sure you could name a few commercial jobs that have Sheetrock but I haven't traveled the country plastering cause the trade is dead. My company has had a ton of jobs awarded because you could count the number of sheets after a taping job.
I've used mesh tape at my house and have never had it crack. Like I said paper tape is better any spec book requires paper tape. But to say mesh tape causes cracks is false. Cracks are caused due to poor hanging of blue board/Sheetrock, leaving gaps are what causes cracks. We have gotten off track in this thread, but mesh tape over wood framing in my experience is perfectly fine to use. It's just my opinion not fact.
Oh Man I better go back to the seattle Cheese cake factory an tear out the sheet rock. must have read the spec sheet wrong just my way of tossing the BS flag out.
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Every Cheesecake Factory in the last 7 years has been done by Shawmut design and construction, every store has been plastered on the inside and STO stucco on the outside. Done by the company I work for.
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If I have a few areas where the drywall is not butted up tightly against each other and there is a small gap can the tape/spackle guy do anything to prevent it from cracking? Thanks.
Yes he can by using dura bond hot mud.
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Just saying http://www.awci.org/cd/archiveArticles.pl?id=399 Go down to where it says sidebar then go up 5 paragraphs
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Just saying http://www.awci.org/cd/archiveArticles.pl?id=399 Go down to where it says sidebar then go up 5 paragraphs
very nice reading thanks for sharing. Iteresting on the dry wall work don't you think
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