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Old 03-07-2014, 09:37 AM   #1
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I'm doing a small basement rec room, about 20 4 x 8 sheets.

I don't want another half-empty 5 gal. container sitting around the house!

Is there one type of compound that will do a good job for each step of the way, or do I need to buy all-purpose for the start and the lighter stuff for the final coats?

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Old 03-07-2014, 09:44 AM   #2
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Buy the products that will do the best job----

Multipurpose for the tape----then light weight topping compound for the final coat--

Also---powdered easy sand for filling voids and corner bead---the cost will be worth it--

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Old 03-07-2014, 10:34 AM   #3
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Truthfully, it doesn't have to be the "best" job, just adequate.

I'm trying to avoid buying two products, much less three.
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Then just buy a box or bucket of all pourpose mud. call it good end of story.Not the way I do it but if you just want meh good enough get the green lid add about a pint of water mix to a sour cream texture and go for it. If you want to do it right a box of taping mud, then a box of topping mud. still have to add about a pint of water to each and mix well.
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Old 03-07-2014, 10:57 AM   #5
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Oh and the half empty bucket. you need to look at it as half full. LOL just take the left over to the land fill and call it good.
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Old 03-07-2014, 01:02 PM   #6
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Thanks Nailbags and oh'Mike!
I just learned something about joint compound from you guys that I didn't know before. No matter how much you think you know...you can always learn more.

Reminds me of a quote from one of my favorite film actors:
"A man's got to know his limitations." --Clint Eastwood aka Dirty Harry
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Old 03-07-2014, 04:42 PM   #7
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use a 5 gallon bucket of all purpose to set the tape and paper beads if your using paper beads , if you have leftover all purpose just add topping mud to it and use it up on the fill coat , then use straight topping for the finish coat . does not hurt to mix them together so you can use it up .
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this is a diy site and homeowners dont want to spend a ton of money on a bunch of different products if they dont have to. i find dust control does ok all around. it sets the tape ok, fills ok and finishes ok. ok?
the proper tested and true way is to prefill with easy sand, set the tape with green lid mud and finish with a premixed topping compound.
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this is a diy site and homeowners dont want to spend a ton of money on a bunch of different products if they dont have to. i find dust control does ok all around. it sets the tape ok, fills ok and finishes ok. ok?
the proper tested and true way is to prefill with easy sand, set the tape with green lid mud and finish with a premixed topping compound.
Easy sand has no glue is the mud and the tape will not bond correctly. This is a DIY and proced at your own risk from advice give out.
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I didnt say to tape with easy sand. I said prefill with easy sand and then tape with green cgc
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this is a diy site and homeowners dont want to spend a ton of money on a bunch of different products if they dont have to. i find dust control does ok all around. it sets the tape ok, fills ok and finishes ok. ok?
the proper tested and true way is to prefill with easy sand, set the tape with green lid mud and finish with a premixed topping compound.

dust control is usually the most expensive though . if you don't want extra 1/2 bucket of mud left over just run all your seems extra wide until its used up . take your hawk and trowel and go nuts . skim coat all the sun walls etc .
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Easy sand has no glue is the mud and the tape will not bond correctly. This is a DIY and proced at your own risk from advice give out.

you can tape with easy sand it helps to wet the tape first though . I do that all the time with patches .
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If by easy sand you mean dura bond hot mud you absolutely can tape with it. If by easy sand you mean like topping or the ultra lite then no you can't tape with it.
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this is a diy site and homeowners dont want to spend a ton of money on a bunch of different products if they dont have to.
Yes this is a DIY site. That doesn't mean homeowners are asking how to incorrectly hack together every project in a slipshod manner and how to cut corners and install code violations every step of the way. My assumption is that HO's ask questions when they're facing an issue beyond their DIY capabilities. By doing it yourself, you're already saving a boatload of money. Trying to "save" a few more dollars by screwing up the finish surface of walls and ceilings because a leftover 1/2 pail of mud is "inefficient" is just downright foolhearty.

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i find dust control does ok all around. it sets the tape ok, fills ok and finishes ok. ok?
Gee, I wonder why the pros don't do it that way then?
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Old 03-08-2014, 08:33 AM   #15
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Drywall mud is so cheap, it would be ridiculous to skimp on it or worry about having a half pail. I'm sure a church, a shelter or another organization would be happy to have the donation if they're doing any remodel work.

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