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Old 10-13-2011, 10:10 PM   #1
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I'm no drywaller...but a customer wants some drywall put on the wall above the windows and fitted neatly around the big fir logs.
How would you go about making the ends around the logs tidy? Or would you use something other than drywall?
The ceiling in this log cabin will be 1 x 6 T & G pine.
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Drywall should be the easy part, how about the vapor barrier?

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No kidding! This is how it was when I came to the job.

The owner had a friend help do the insulation and v.b. Both are not exactly good. I tried to find out why the helper didn't leave enough of the 6 mil poly to go from the ceiling and cover the wall section as well without cutting it.

No answer to that one.

I'm still on the outside work (deck) that I was hired for. But it seems I will be doing all manner of little things.

Wood I'm good with...drywall, not so much.
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I would continue the T&G from the ceiling to at least the top of the window. Of course it all depends on what the customer wants.
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I agree with Havalife that sheetrock wold not be too hard to install, but wouldn't there be a problem with the expansion/contraction with log homes? I recall watching an episode of Hometime or TOH years ago where some of the interior walls actually slid along threaded rod installed inside the framing to allow the beams to move without disturbing the dividing walls.
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I would continue the T&G from the ceiling to at least the top of the window. Of course it all depends on what the customer wants.
Yes,I agree with you.

I have put the idea forward to the owner. There is actually a nice straight line there, and I see no reason that would not work.

Part of the problem here is that there are two related couples who own this log cabin. It seems they don't see eye to eye on many things.
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I agree with Havalife that sheetrock wold not be too hard to install, but wouldn't there be a problem with the expansion/contraction with log homes? I recall watching an episode of Hometime or TOH years ago where some of the interior walls actually slid along threaded rod installed inside the framing to allow the beams to move without disturbing the dividing walls.
Hi wrangler...long time no chat...

This log cabin has the same setup. Heavy stainless steel threaded rod with powerful springs at the bottom to keep pressure on the logs as they shrink.

This one has been in place a little over 6 years. The one owner who does 99% of the work (I'll call him the good guy) has been doing the tightening up, and informs me that the last time there was any movement - 1/4" or so - was two years ago.

This narrow section of drywall I don't believe would be affected by any possible further settling as it is independent from that perspective.

Still looking for an expert opinion on how it would be possible to get a clean finish between the drywall and logs if necessary.
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I'm no expert but, do your best cutting your drywall around the beam, then after its done, sprayfoam any small gaps, cut flush, then tape and mud. Then caulk it around the log and paint. Am I missing a reason why that wouldn't work?
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As for getting the log curve right, Snug the drywall sheet to the log and transcribe the curve with a compass.

But I get the feeling this isn't what you were asking about. :/
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I'm with Jimmy. Most anything like the foam that will dry hard (and hopefully close to log color) should be able to be neatly flush trimmed with a Multitool.

I can't tell you the variety of strange and creative things I can now do... that before having a Multitool were close to impossible.
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I'm no expert but, do your best cutting your drywall around the beam, then after its done, sprayfoam any small gaps, cut flush, then tape and mud. Then caulk it around the log and paint. Am I missing a reason why that wouldn't work?
If indeed it has to be drywalled, that sounds like it would work. They have some spray foam on hand which they have been using around the windows and doors.
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As for getting the log curve right, Snug the drywall sheet to the log and transcribe the curve with a compass.

But I get the feeling this isn't what you were asking about. :/
Yes, understood about how to get that lumpy curve.

I think I might use a pair of compasses though, rather than a compass.

I was going to mark the curve on a piece of cardboard and trim it until it was more or less perfect, then transfer that to the drywall.

Is there any sort of trim that could fit over the edge of the drywall that can be curved? They have plenty of the straight trim.
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I'm with Jimmy. Most anything like the foam that will dry hard (and hopefully close to log color) should be able to be neatly flush trimmed with a Multitool.

I can't tell you the variety of strange and creative things I can now do... that before having a Multitool were close to impossible.
Hi Willie...the foam they have dries hard and is a sort of yellowish brindle brown color. Not a bad match to the logs I guess. But I think that would be covered with something anyway. I suppose you could even skim coat the hardened foam with mud.

I have the Fein multitool and a couple of rotary tools, so I definitely hear you there.
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What is that phrase?

"This is not the hill I want to die on".

This job might be a good one to walk away from...unless your really hungry.....especially considering that the other 2 people involved are not exactly on board.
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"This is not the hill I want to die on".

This job might be a good one to walk away from...unless your really hungry.....especially considering that the other 2 people involved are not exactly on board.
Actually, this is but a very small part of this job. The bulk of it is wood working, which is my forte for sure.

I may end up being able to avoid any of the drywall work (which isn't much) if I'm lucky, or careful.

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