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Old 06-10-2013, 10:49 AM   #16
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Yeah the sprayer is probably over my head. I was going to do the skim coat with compound and a knife. Like the roller idea but I have to break the job up enough that I feel more comfortable going section by section with a knife.

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Yes do what you feel most comfortable doing. One bit of advice wait between coats on your mudding and tapping for them to dry out 100%. Out side of that your doing great.
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Thanks for the comment. Ready to be done and move on to paint! Hopefully soon :-)
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With the ceiling and saying not enough screws, does it make a difference/help that we glued as well? Used lots of glue!
If by "glue" you mean construction adhesive like liquid nails, yes that will help with sagging a lot, from a practical point of view. As far as codes go, don't know.

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One quick question on skim coat. Do I only do inflated areas or do I go over what I already mudded as well?
Normally I wouldn't bother with a skim coat unless you have a specific reason. If you do it, you do the entire wall. The best way to apply is by thinning the compound and applying it with a paint roller. You can still do smaller areas at a time - just stick the roller in the mud bucket, and cover the bucket so it doesn't start to dry out. It works best if this coat is thinned a bit, and it will fall all over the place if you use your taping knife to apply, not to mention taking way too long.

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Old 06-10-2013, 04:24 PM   #20
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Jeff we did use liquid nails in the ceiling.

Still debating on the roller method. Haven't mixed mud buckets yet and it just makes me a little nervous about getting the consistency right for spreading it on.
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Not all that hard, and if it's not going on right just add more water or more mud from the store bucket and remix (mix this up in a different bucket than the one it came in.) You might even be able to find a video on YouTube about it - I think I originally heard about this technique from Myron Ferguson's book.
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Look up Myron Ferguson that drywall guy or fine homebuilding for a link to the roller method. And for gluing in most areas it is OK. A lot of the pros now do glue then only put enough screws to hold till dry then they go back and remove the screws in the field. They say never a nail or screw pop that way. If you consider the tuff hide do a little research I believe your sprayer has a minimum size it has to be in order to spray.

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[QUOTE=joshs;1198548]I've seen the tough hide mentioned before. Would I have to get a paint sprayer for that? Where would it be available? If I have no experience spraying should I even attempt it?[/QUOTE]


no, there is no reason to spay, you do not need to use that particular product. and for what reason are you skim coating? no reason for that either.
sand all smooth, clean and prime, repair stuff you find, prime those spots and paint.
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To skim coat your drywall will give you a level 5 finish. Whice is basically a very smooth wall. Now having said that if you are going to do anything except spray paint your wall you will not end up with smooth walls anyway. If you are planning on using brush and roller the stipple from your roller alone will give you a slight orange peel texture. So you are kinda defeating the purpose of ultra smooth walls. Maybe google level 4 drywall and save yourself a lot of extra work that won't show. These are just suggestions because you are the only one that knows what kind of finish you are striving for.
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no, there is no reason to spay
The SPCA might disagree, but I digress.
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I guess this is what I've struggled with. I've seen lots of people saying that if you don't skim coat you can tell the texture differences between the mudded area and the drywall paper. If I use brushes and rollers, does that hide the difference in texture?

Have a baby on the way and this finished area is being built for all the crap that goes along with baby and will probably be where we spend the majority of our time for the foreseeable future so I want it to look as nice as possible. If the only benefit of skim coating is that it makes walls flat and hand rolling would undue that, then I am all for saving the trouble of skim coating. Just want to make sure it looks good!
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Out west everything is orange peal texture. I think I have done maybe 2 level five finishes in the last year. most is tape two coats of mud let dry prime texture prime again paint. fast cheap and easy. Bleck! But that is what people like and want in their homes out west.
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there is no reason to spay
i think your dog would agree too no need to spay
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As long as you sand your joints, and the final coat is smooth (you can use a halogen light aimed down the wall to check), then you don't need to skim coat. A coat of primer and at least 1 coat of paint put on with a roller will have more than enough total texture to cover any difference between drywall paper and joint compound (don't skimp on the paint - a paint that says it covers 350-400 sf should cover about 325, counting waste in roller, etc.)
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SPRAY, and as posted , they really is no reason for a level 5 finish, they are pretty rare.

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