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Old 11-06-2012, 09:57 PM   #16
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i get it! you are 280lbs 6' 8" and have a 13" dick. ooooo wait! your just some nerd in your moms basement hiding behind a computer screen trying to be the man cause you cant be in the real world. its all good i understand, its ok someone has to do it no shame in it. to say i do piss poor work because of the way i install my drywall is completely retarded! who the hell do you think you are? you probably cant even mud a screw head without it showing.

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i get it! you are 280lbs 6' 8" and have a 13" dick. ooooo wait! your just some nerd in your moms basement hiding behind a computer screen trying to be the man cause you cant be in the real world. its all good i understand, its ok someone has to do it no shame in it. to say i do piss poor work because of the way i install my drywall is completely retarded! who the hell do you think you are? you probably cant even mud a screw head without it showing.
And this ^ is why you do not hire people off of Craigslist.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:17 PM   #18
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imo. do whatever it takes to minimize/eliminate butt joints.
Totally agree. And I am always willing to learn and discuss. Just don't see that standing all sheets does this better. In a 12' room or less horizontal would seem better.

Also studs are quite often not straight, bowed, twisted, etc. By spanning them and only joining 4' instead of 8' would help with some of these issues. Mind you I am using butt board and not joining on studs so even my butt joints aren't butt joints in the standard sense. (whole 'nother thread there)

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Totally agree. And I am always willing to learn and discuss. Just don't see that standing all sheets does this better. In a 12' room or less horizontal would seem better.
You're absolutely right, railroading is always better.

Even in rooms larger than 12', you can get longer boards- that is what a professional drywaller would do.

If for some reason you can't get boards long enough, having 1 vertical seam is better than 5 or 6.

It's easy to see a vertical seam, much harder to see a horizontal one. You will notice that many suppliers carry 54" wide boards for when you have 9' ceilings.
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so the guy that asked the question is now answering it?! and 1 vertical seam? you dont stagger your butts? and there is nothing wrong with standing them vertical i bet you "the professionals" do stand sheets up and they do hang them horizontal. all i say to you is dont bash it until you try it. the drywall isnt going to come flying off the wall at you. this is a ford vs chevy debate. they are both good, they both have their pros/cons. use what works out better for you. if only getting 8's done the stairs and putting them up vertical is the better choice then do so.
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Totally agree. And I am always willing to learn and discuss. Just don't see that standing all sheets does this better. In a 12' room or less horizontal would seem better.

Also studs are quite often not straight, bowed, twisted, etc. By spanning them and only joining 4' instead of 8' would help with some of these issues. Mind you I am using butt board and not joining on studs so even my butt joints aren't butt joints in the standard sense. (whole 'nother thread there)
my ceilings are 8'8". i could not find 54" boards. so what i did, was put 8'ers vertical, and i have the butt down close to the floor. my reasoning for this = the joint is down behind furniture = nobody can see it, if i don't make a nice mud job, though i will try.

i made and used butt boards on the ceiling =
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oh. it really is too bad, with todays technology and all, that they don't make fully tapered drywall.
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I prefer horizontal, find it faster and easier to both board and tape, especially when working on your own; and see it done this way most often, pretty much standard in residential. However I have noticed vertical done more often in commercial work. One aspect of the horizontal orientation with staggered sheets, is it will make for a stronger wall, if the situation calls for it.

However in your situation if it does cut down on but joints, why not.
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i know as you said chris bc that in commerical construction that they install the drywall vertically but most of the time the studs are flimsy steel studs so hanging them vertically they should still make it pretty strong wall, strong enough for residential wouldnt you think?
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I've never heard of it being a problem, and have seen it hung vertically on basement reno's and whatnot, with no issues. Just seen it more commonly done horizontal, however I don't see any problem doing it vertically if the situation calls for it.

Although I know in theory it is supposed to be stronger horizontal, I doubt the house will fall down because the basement drywall was put on vertically, lol.
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oh. it really is too bad, with todays technology and all, that they don't make fully tapered drywall.
That's where the butt boards come into play, they approximate a tapered joint on the butts.
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That's where the butt boards come into play, they approximate a tapered joint on the butts.
yes, i know. but, we really shouldn't have to do that. drywall should be fully tapered.
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thanks chris bc i totally agree. drywall is not structural, it shouldnt hold anything together so it shouldnt really matter. its depends on the situation given to you. going back to mae-lings original question i think the best way is putting the 8's up vertically even if he has the butt boards. i'm all about having the least butts possible because butts are gross and suck to tape. i can totally tape them without issue, i do 2' butt to butt all the time doing restoration on basement flood repairs but they arent fun and should be avoided if possible. tapered always gives you less sanding with tapered joints just needing a quick little scuff as opposed to sanding out 3-4' wide butts.

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