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Old 12-16-2009, 06:29 PM   #16
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3) I don't hang rock with the idea of having to take it down. That is a ludicrous argument. That makes as much sense as the argument of using less fasteners in case someone wants to remodel down the road.
No doubt, however, I've been able to save pieces of drywall in the past by carefully eyeballing where the screws are on the wall and measuring up to the seam to make my incision in the case of having to get behind a wall.

Now, that's typically a moot point if the walls have been painted more than once.

I've also had the unfortunate experience of hanging drywall alone and sometimes its nice to be able to unzip two place holder screws to shove up a piece that shifted on you instead of destroying the piece.

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At least on the side abutting the adjacent wall the drywall (except perhaps right at the corner, depending on the width of the door's casing ) is not the finish surface, it's functioning as a shim over which casing will be installed.
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I vote tear it out and close the gaps. Use vynle and paper corners. If possible cut the door out of as full pieceof drywall minus the width needed to eliminate joints at the corners of the door.

If the jams are too small, rip them and reinstall flush to the wall then use wider doorstop trim if you have to cover the open split in the jam. If you can use 3/8" where you are at, this should leave you enogh meat to attach the hinges firmly to the jams.
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:18 PM   #19
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is this a hack job ??????how are u supposed to finish tape ??flat tape to the existing door trim ?or maybe thats why he wanted 1/4 inch ,so he could slip in behind the trim !..make sure he prefills the joints with sheetrock..at least it will expand when it sets up & keep er tight..the other repliers are right on though..door areas are so prone to movement..which makes cracking in your joints..too many joints..lol on this this job than i would like to tape.....
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If it's indeed a manufactured home, then it falls under HUD code, not building codes. The last time I looked, which was at least 10 years ago, HUD code didn't require sheetrock at all (you could put plywood paneling on the studs), but moving the entry door would definitely be a violation -- you can't do anything that might change the building's performance in the wind without an engineer's seal.

But if it's a modular home (not manufactured) it *would* fall under local building codes.
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The small plywood area that is necessary for the crane to lift the house onto the foundation
Implies "modular".

Pictures also make it pretty obvious that it is not a double wide or anything like that. Confirmed by OP on the last post of the first page. Lets not get into semantics.

Coincidentally many of the "modular" homes I have done have had 5/8" drywall on the walls and ceilings. They are usually built to meet or exceed (due to transport) the strictest building codes but not necessarily the local codes if they are less stringent. They are inspected in the factory by third party inspectors. Only the work done by the set crew and on site connections, modifications, site work, and additions to the structure fall under the authority of the local building department.

Extending the front entryway could potentially have been done on site without an engineers seal. Many modular homes have framing work done on site post set. This work is usually encompassed in or falls under the building permit. I have also framed many large porch roofs without an engineers seal on them (affects wind performance) as well as minor framing modifications, stairs, garages, decks, and basements that all fell under the building permit(s) pulled for the job. You need a seal to alter structural elements or engineered elements of the structure not for wind performance.

A house is generally a large box or rectangle, it has poor wind performance and usually lack wheels and an engine thus will not be winning any races.
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Old 12-17-2009, 10:14 AM   #21
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Implies "modular".
I've seen manufactured housing (HUD code) subdivisions put on foundations with cranes too. Two stories as well, with full basements. Not the most common thing, but they're out there.

The fellow from the factory said that the reason they use 2x6 walls and 5x8" sheetrock (on the ones I saw) was so they would hold up to being towed down the highway.

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They are inspected in the factory by third party inspectors. Only the work done by the set crew and on site connections, modifications, site work, and additions to the structure fall under the authority of the local building department.
Thanks! I had been wondering about that. I recently met some guys who are going to use modular to build an apartment building. Pretty amazing.


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Extending the front entryway could potentially have been done on site without an engineers seal. Many modular homes have framing work done on site post set.
If you go back and look, you'll see that I was referring only to HUD code homes ("mobile homes"). With modular you can do anything that's permissible under local building code -- now that the original poster has clarified that it is a modular home we know that the alterations could have been done under local building codes with any necessary permits and/or inspections...

With HUD code (not relavent to this thread any longer) you're restricted to the HUD code. Yes, I see large roofed porches on double-wides all the time, but unless they were designed by the factory (some are -- they can come with plans and details for how to attach the roof, etc) they are a code violation.

http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/w...fr3280_08.html
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I've seen manufactured housing (HUD code) subdivisions put on foundations with cranes too. Two stories as well, with full basements. Not the most common thing, but they're out there.

Agreed I have seen mobiles placed on foundations also. I have not seen any two story mobiles. In regards to mobiles you can not attach to them here under any circumstances. Decks, porches, etc., must be free standing.

The fellow from the factory said that the reason they use 2x6 walls and 5x8" sheetrock (on the ones I saw) was so they would hold up to being towed down the highway.

I assume your referring to modular homes with this statement. They also do this to increase insulation value in the exterior walls.However they are not towed the are trailered.


Thanks! I had been wondering about that. I recently met some guys who are going to use modular to build an apartment building. Pretty amazing.

Your welcome. Yes it is amazing what they can do with modular components now. Pretty much anything you could stick build can also be converted to a modular. They also fare much better in hurricanes then average stick built structures. Check out the FEMA reports on them they are interesting.


If you go back and look, you'll see that I was referring only to HUD code homes ("mobile homes"). With modular you can do anything that's permissible under local building code -- now that the original poster has clarified that it is a modular home we know that the alterations could have been done under local building codes with any necessary permits and/or inspections...

Agreed.

With HUD code (not relavent to this thread any longer) you're restricted to the HUD code. Yes, I see large roofed porches on double-wides all the time, but unless they were designed by the factory (some are -- they can come with plans and details for how to attach the roof, etc) they are a code violation.

http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/w...fr3280_08.html
We do have building codes that are relevant to mobile homes here. The gist is regarding structures (decks, additions, etc.) that they must be free standing (self supporting).
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We do have building codes that are relevant to mobile homes here. The gist is regarding structures (decks, additions, etc.) that they must be free standing (self supporting).
Right -- because you can't do anything to the mobile home that will impact how it performs in the wind (without an engineers seal).
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Right -- because you can't do anything to the mobile home that will impact how it performs in the wind (without an engineers seal).
No, it actually has to do with structural bearing capability. The building code, I am not referring to the HUD codes you mentioned.
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No, it actually has to do with structural bearing capability.
Then I suppose it's a happy coincidence that it also causes compliance with HUD code.
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Then I suppose it's a happy coincidence that it also causes compliance with HUD code.

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