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Mstrlucky74 03-16-2013 10:08 AM

Got estimates today
 
Two guys came by today. Both will be doing the job by themselves. It is about 40 4x8 boards equally split between walls & ceilings. Both were about the same price but one guy said it will take 2 days and the other said he needed three. I'm sure it doesn't matter but the guy who said it would take three days said he would use a 40" trowel on this one long joint( where the 1st floor meets the 2nd) and the other guy said the longest blade he uses is 10". Just a FYI. Any opinions? Thanks.

joecaption 03-16-2013 10:13 AM

Never heard of anyone using a 40" trowel unless there skim coating the whole wall.
I use a 12" as the last knife on seams, does not make my way right it just works out for me.

oh'mike 03-16-2013 10:23 AM

Three days is typical---two for tape and mud--then a short day for sanding and clean up---

We usually let the mud set up for a day ---so four ,total----

Skill is more important than time-----we often hang and tape ready for sanding in one day---but that's a push job----still looks good---but rarely done--takes a day or two for all that mud to dry.

Mstrlucky74 03-16-2013 10:39 AM

Don't know who to choose.....any advice

framer52 03-16-2013 11:44 AM

tHE one you are most comfortable with.

40" knife is ridiculous by the way.

have you checked references?

chrisn 03-16-2013 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by framer52 (Post 1138546)
tHE one you are most comfortable with.

40" knife is ridiculous by the way.:eek:

have you checked references?

no doubt

Mstrlucky74 03-16-2013 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisn (Post 1138738)
no doubt


He said he was going to use that for one joint where the 1st & 2nd floor meets. He said that is a hard joint/seam to hide. I am just a bit turned off that the other guy said 2 days. And references to me seem bogus....can't someone give you the numbers to family, friends etc. pretending he did work for him?

ToolSeeker 03-16-2013 06:21 PM

Have never heard of 40" knife the biggest I use is a 16" trowel. I think either he misunderstood you or you misunderstood him. And to be real 2 days to tape and mud by 1 guy is doable. It really sounds like he knows what he is doing. He is going to use hot mud for the first 2 coats then sand, then topcoat with regular mud. Just my opinion.

oh'mike 03-16-2013 06:56 PM

Two days is very possible----ask if he has a job going on right now----and would it be possible to drop by the site?

Do not think badly of him if he refuses that----I would never invite someone to one of my jobs without permition of the owner---some customers are very private and that must be respected---

Mstrlucky74 03-16-2013 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ToolSeeker (Post 1138809)
Have never heard of 40" knife the biggest I use is a 16" trowel. I think either he misunderstood you or you misunderstood him. And to be real 2 days to tape and mud by 1 guy is doable. It really sounds like he knows what he is doing. He is going to use hot mud for the first 2 coats then sand, then topcoat with regular mud. Just my opinion.

What's hot mud? The first lunatic with the "40" trowel" mentioned hot mud. DOes everyone use hot mud? Maybe I can ask the guy who said "two days" about hot mud to quiz him.....I guess

Mstrlucky74 03-16-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 1138848)
Two days is very possible----ask if he has a job going on right now----and would it be possible to drop by the site?

Do not think badly of him if he refuses that----I would never invite someone to one of my jobs without permition of the owner---some customers are very private and that must be respected---

Thanks Mike!!!!!

ToolSeeker 03-16-2013 07:35 PM

Hot mud is a setting mud it comes in bags marked5 minute 20 minute 45 and 90 and you can get longer. this is mixed with water and the number on the bag is how long it takes it to dry. This is done thru a chemical reaction that is how they can tell how long to dry. Regular drywall mud sets by drying when exposed to the air and can take a day. So by using the hot muds you can get 2 coats on in a day and then sand. The down side is they are hard to sand and finish. So usually the first couple coats are hot mud then a coat of regular mud goes on top or finish coat.

Mstrlucky74 03-16-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ToolSeeker (Post 1138885)
Hot mud is a setting mud it comes in bags marked5 minute 20 minute 45 and 90 and you can get longer. this is mixed with water and the number on the bag is how long it takes it to dry. This is done thru a chemical reaction that is how they can tell how long to dry. Regular drywall mud sets by drying when exposed to the air and can take a day. So by using the hot muds you can get 2 coats on in a day and then sand. The down side is they are hard to sand and finish. So usually the first couple coats are hot mud then a coat of regular mud goes on top or finish coat.


Ok so the mud that you a referring to is different Than that spackle that comes in those 5 gallon buckets? That is the regular drywall mud you mentioned that takes about a day to dry. So there is really no way that the guy who said it would take two days could use the regular drywall spackle? He needs to use the mud that's in the bags? Thanks TS

thatbobguy 03-17-2013 02:56 AM

Maybe the one guy uses a plasterer's darby:

http://www.bontool.com/product1.asp?P=WEDGEDARBY

chrisn 03-17-2013 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mstrlucky74 (Post 1138936)
Ok so the mud that you a referring to is different Than that spackle that comes in those 5 gallon buckets? That is the regular drywall mud you mentioned that takes about a day to dry. So there is really no way that the guy who said it would take two days could use the regular drywall spackle? He needs to use the mud that's in the bags? Thanks TS


Read his post again, carefully. 2 coats hot mud, THEN a coat of regular mud on top, not spackle, ever.


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