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Old 01-20-2012, 12:09 PM   #16
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Leave the 2" at the bottom of the drywall you what that horizontal seam tight. The 2" at the bottom will be covered with base trim.

Looks like that window is a replacement set in the existing framing and the wall is built on to the existing wall, so the header is already there.....right? In which case you will be fine, but you do have to think about how you are going to connect the window casings, if there is nothing to nail to how will you hang the trim?

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u mean do the 2" at the bottom and not mud it? if i have to mud it then i will just mud once in the middle.
about the window, yes it was a replacement, i just moved into this house they said windows were replaced a few years back...i was thinking about nailing the window casings to the existing 1 x frame of the window if this is even possible

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Maybe you should ask some questions first and then make suggestions based on the answers, instead of blasting blindly. Just a suggestion.

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I'm sorry. I didn't know I was blasting. You didn't give me time to get back to the gentleman.

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I don't understand why your nearest stud is so far away.

I would bet they are that far because this is a window which replaced an old counterbalanced window.

What are you going to nail your trim to?

Could add a couple of horizontal pieces to fasten to, not that big of a deal.

Yes, put the rip in the center and don't worry about the tapered edge butting a non-tapered edge.


You want the horizontal seam (the one you have to mud) tight, leave the gap at the bottom where it will be covered by base trim.
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u mean do the 2" at the bottom and not mud it? if i have to mud it then i will just mud once in the middle.
about the window, yes it was a replacement, i just moved into this house they said windows were replaced a few years back...i was thinking about nailing the window casings to the existing 1 x frame of the window if this is even possible
I'de put it in the middle. The base isn't going to cover the bevel on the bottom sheetrock if it's up 2" and you are making the taper bend over for no reason.
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u mean do the 2" at the bottom and not mud it? if i have to mud it then i will just mud once in the middle.
about the window, yes it was a replacement, i just moved into this house they said windows were replaced a few years back...i was thinking about nailing the window casings to the existing 1 x frame of the window if this is even possible
To finish the Drywall you will have to mud the horizontal seam, to leave the tapered edges on the sheet and butt the top and bottom pieces together in the middle, the bottom will be covered by the baseboard trim.

You usually want something to nail to around the outside of the window casing (moulding), so add either a full length 2x4 around the opening (tied to the existing wall) flush to the finished inside, this way you will have a nailing surface around the parimeter of the opening.

You should insulate around the window frame as well, either with pink or foam, if with foam be careful as it expands.

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To finish the Drywall you will have to mud the horizontal seam, to leave the tapered edges on the sheet and butt the top and bottom pieces together in the middle, the bottom will be covered by the baseboard trim.

You usually want something to nail to around the outside of the window casing (moulding), so add either a full length 2x4 around the opening (tied to the existing wall) flush to the finished inside, this way you will have a nailing surface around the parimeter of the opening.

You should insulate around the window frame as well, either with pink or foam, if with foam be careful as it expands.

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Why do you keep repeating yourself when the op already conceded with me that base won't cover unless he's using 6"?
As a matter of fact, it's all been covered. The op knows what they need to do.
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I'de put it in the middle. The base isn't going to cover the bevel on the bottom sheetrock if it's up 2" and you are making the taper bend over for no reason.
Come-on you can't be serious, leave a gap of 2" in the middle of the wall? How you going to finish that with a cement truck and a trowel?

Even cheap baseboard is 3-1/4" inch profile, last time I looked at a tape measure 3" will cover 2" rather easily and if you want to cover the entire bevelled edge use 4" baseboard.

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You want the horizontal seam (the one you have to mud) tight, leave the gap at the bottom where it will be covered by base trim.[/quote]

u mean leave a 2" gap at the bottom and cover it with the baseboard? then i will have to put a really wide base trim to cover the 2" gap and the ~3" of the drywall tapered edge...i want a trim no wider that 3.5"


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Come-on you can't be serious, leave a gap of 2" in the middle of the wall? How you going to finish that with a cement truck and a trowel?

Even cheap baseboard is 3-1/4" inch profile, last time I looked at a tape measure 3" will cover 2" rather easily and if you want to cover the entire bevelled edge use 4" baseboard.

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Not a gap. A 2" rip. That's what the op said in the first post.
You're being difficult and silly for no reason.
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Why do you keep repeating yourself when the op already conceded with me that base won't cover unless he's using 6"?
As a matter of fact, it's all been covered. The op knows what they need to do.
Ceiling height 8'-2" is that to raw ceiling joist or finished ceiling?

2 x 4" DW sheet = 8' leaving a 2" gap at the bottom.

Baseboard usually is mounted about 1/2" from sub floor to allow for carpet kick.

Leaves a 1-1/2" to cover with base.

Tapered edge of sheet is 1-1/2"

3" will cover the gap and the taper,

I am repeating myself because you are giving the OP poor direction IMO.

The OP should not be doing anything with the DW as far as cutting the tapered edges off as there is no need to.

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Not a gap. A 2" rip. That's what the op said in the first post.
You're being difficult and silly for no reason.
Yes I read that but look at the pic, they are (2) taper edges and I would bet the other end of the bottom piece is sitting on the floor. I believe there is just a terminology differential here.

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Ceiling height 8'-2" is that to raw ceiling joist or finished ceiling?

2 x 4" DW sheet = 8' leaving a 2" gap at the bottom.

Baseboard usually is mounted about 1/2" from sub floor to allow for carpet kick.

Leaves a 1-1/2" to cover with base.

Tapered edge of sheet is 1-1/2"

3" will cover the gap and the taper,

I am repeating myself because you are giving the OP poor direction IMO.

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I don't think I'm going to read any more of your posts. The op has heard all sides of the argument and can now make an informed decision.
Have at it big guy...
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You want the horizontal seam (the one you have to mud) tight, leave the gap at the bottom where it will be covered by base trim.
u mean leave a 2" gap at the bottom and cover it with the baseboard? then i will have to put a really wide base trim to cover the 2" gap and the ~3" of the drywall tapered edge...i want a trim no wider that 3.5"


thanks[/quote]

3.5" trim will be fine, if you leave that gap in the middle you will have a heck of time finishing it! It will look like crap! and after going through the effort of leveling and insulating, I would bet you want something that looks half decent when you are finished.

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titanoman,

how will lay out the tape if i have the rip in the middle? do i have to used two strips or just a wider tape?


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I don't think I'm going to read any more of your posts. The op has heard all sides of the argument and can now make an informed decision.
Have at it big guy...

Really have you ever tried to finish, with drywall mud, a 2" gap? seriously?

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