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Old 05-16-2012, 10:10 AM   #16
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oh. the P&L on the interior walls. i am just going to drywall over em. call me lazy, but screw that tearing out all that chit.
and there was no insulation in that wall.
I am renovating an old farm house and gutted the section that i was working in.. we reclaimed about 2" in each direction because we removed lathe & plaster and then each exterior wall had 1" thick boards. wall cavities filled with dirt... a huge mess, but it is clean, warm and i have outlets and lights where i want them..

IMHO, gutting it and starting fresh is always the way to go..

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Some really old homes used dirt for insulation in the wall stud cavities. I would question whether this weighed so much that the lath separated in places or maybe sections of wall collapsed outward.

But another explanation for dirt in the wall stud cavities could be animals nesting in there, in which case the dirt would be hazmat.

Because of weight I would also think twice before drywalling over the ceiling, over existing plaster/drywall and all.
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Some really old homes used dirt for insulation in the wall stud cavities. I would question whether this weighed so much that the lath separated in places or maybe sections of wall collapsed outward.

But another explanation for dirt in the wall stud cavities could be animals nesting in there, in which case the dirt would be hazmat.

Because of weight I would also think twice before drywalling over the ceiling, over existing plaster/drywall and all.
dirt in the walls, interesting. but i bet it worked, to some degree.

i thought about the weight. while i think it can handle it, i have been thinking about a drop ceiling or something. i just want something better than the ugly P&L.
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Dirt for insulation? That is a good one. There is dirt there however it isn't insulation nor was it put there on purpose for insulation. That is the funniest thing I have heard in a long time. Lol


QUOTE=AllanJ;922604]Some really old homes used dirt for insulation in the wall stud cavities. I would question whether this weighed so much that the lath separated in places or maybe sections of wall collapsed outward.

But another explanation for dirt in the wall stud cavities could be animals nesting in there, in which case the dirt would be hazmat.

Because of weight I would also think twice before drywalling over the ceiling, over existing plaster/drywall and all.[/QUOTE]
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Also remember that you will have to extend your door jambs on your interior doors.
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Dirt for insulation? That is a good one. There is dirt there however it isn't insulation nor was it put there on purpose for insulation. That is the funniest thing I have heard in a long time. Lol

agreed.... it wasn't very good for R value, but it did insulate against noise during bad weather...

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i have been thinking about a drop ceiling or something. i just want something better than the ugly P&L.
will say again, gutting it IS the proper way to go.
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We can help you figure the drop ceiling or not......plaster and wood lath is 8# per sq.ft., it adds up quick on 2x4's that are over-spanned to begin with- check here: room above; http://publicecodes.citation.com/ico...002_par017.htm

attic above: http://publicecodes.citation.com/ico...002_par023.htm

As you said vapor barrier, I presume attic above?

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i had a similar situation. 9' ceilings, p&l everywhere. took out all the walls for insulation and new wiring (interior too as i changed the arrangement a bit).

chose to leave the ceiling and just rock over it. had a drywaller friend do it, i believe they used the 1/2in ultralight and screwed on the 24oc joists with 2 1/2 screws. they put a knockdown texture on it as well. it's 18months later and there is no sagging, and the ultralight doesn't add all THAT much to the total weight. looks great.
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vapor barrier between the plaster and drywall ? i would say no because you might create a vapor lock between the two which would trap moisture , cold above - hot below creates moisture i would let it breathe .
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I would go over it with 1/4" and texture the ceiling.
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isn't 1/4 more expensive (and prone to sagging)?
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isn't 1/4 more expensive (and prone to sagging)?
You are going over the P&L right ?
Glued and screwed why would it sag?
When they did our hobby farm 30 years ago that is what they used,still looks as good as the day they installed it.
3/8 maybe?
What ever you choose go to a "REAL supplier" and ask questions,your main concern should be weight.
Seal up the room with duct tape and plastic including the floor,send wifey shopping and have at it,toss the demo out of the window.

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Just use 1/2 or at the very least 3/8. 1/4 will be a total pain getting on the ceiling and will probably crack while trying to install. 1/4 will sag if your on 24 inch rafters. You can put a plastic vapor barrier up however its a bit extreme.
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thanx, everyone. i have time to think about this. idk what i am going to do yet.
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I also think that it is a bit more expensive.

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