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Jim Ignatowski 05-25-2013 06:10 PM

Drywall Identification? Asbestos?
 
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After removing some insulation I found drywall that has venting holes. This drywall was cemented to brick which was the interior wall of a sauna. The bottom of the drywall was completely deteriorated into a pile of dust, and I'm very concerned that it contains asbestos given it's location and function. I put on the hazmat suit, respirator, gloves, and goggles; wet down the dust and removed most of the bottom, but the top remains. I'm not sure whether to encapsulate it, or remove it. Can anyone identify this stuff? If so, any thoughts on whether it would have asbestos?

I'm planning on having it tested, but that will probably take some time.

joecaption 05-25-2013 06:34 PM

Looks like plaster board not drywall.
Not likly not asbestos, still scared get it test. Nobody can do it over the net.

Willie T 05-25-2013 07:03 PM

Boy, there are times I wish I was an insurance salesman. :laughing:

princelake 05-25-2013 07:13 PM

ya nobody can say for sure just by looking at a picture. your going to have to get it tested if you want to know for sure.
if you've already tore half of it out you might as well finish tearing it out.
what you've done sounds good with the suit, wet down, etc.
did you set up an air tight containment with a cleaning area?
also you should have an air scrubber and a hepa vac and clean the whole place.

Nailbags 05-25-2013 08:11 PM

Well it could be or it could be nothing. if it is you already done the damage asbestos is safe and harmless if it is not disturbed and you tore it up now you want to know if it is. The thing to do is before you go and tear in to something old take a sample have it tested then go do your home improvement. because we can not tell you over the internet.

Jim Ignatowski 05-25-2013 11:06 PM

The pictures that I provided are what I found after removing the insulation. Being a holiday weekend, I didn't have a lot of alternatives. The only other option was to leave a pile dust sitting on the floor and trying to seal it up. Either way, it wasn't a good situation and definitely not how I wanted to spend my Saturday.

I have a piece wrapped in plastic and will get it tested this week. Results take a while. I was hoping someone might recognize those holes on the board ... I've never seen that before.

gregzoll 05-26-2013 12:24 AM

Good ole Gyprock. Should be no Asbestos whatsoever in it. I had to go through checking with a local company that tests for Asbestos and when I told them the neighborhood and age of the home, their exact words were "No Asbestos was ever used in that development that we know of, through tests and research of past information filed with the county."

As for you, you need to do the same, if you want to make sure that they never used any Asbestos in your place, due to the Gyprock in your place, dates it around the same age as our house, which was pre-WWII/Attack on Pearl Harbor.

gregzoll 05-26-2013 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1187518)
Looks like plaster board not drywall.
Not likly not asbestos, still scared get it test. Nobody can do it over the net.

Actually it is called Gyprock.

gregzoll 05-26-2013 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by princelake (Post 1187542)
ya nobody can say for sure just by looking at a picture. your going to have to get it tested if you want to know for sure.
if you've already tore half of it out you might as well finish tearing it out.
what you've done sounds good with the suit, wet down, etc.
did you set up an air tight containment with a cleaning area?
also you should have an air scrubber and a hepa vac and clean the whole place.

Only reason to setup an air containment area, is to keep the dust down during demo of the area, or if they had a whole lot of mold, that came back testing as not good for breathing in by humans or pets.

princelake 05-26-2013 07:58 AM

asbestos going into your lungs and gives you lung cancer. if for some reason there is asbestos an air scrubber will take those particles out of the air just like on a mold job it takes the mold spores out of the air. and they are great for taking the dust out of the air during demo and also great for sanding drywall.

gregzoll 05-26-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by princelake (Post 1187870)
asbestos going into your lungs and gives you lung cancer. if for some reason there is asbestos an air scrubber will take those particles out of the air just like on a mold job it takes the mold spores out of the air. and they are great for taking the dust out of the air during demo and also great for sanding drywall.

You have to be doing it for a very long time, or already have a lung/breathing issue, where you can be more susceptible to issues with large amounts of dust.

The way we did our vent, was place a fan in the window to pull air out of kitchen, as we knocked the wall down between it and the dining room, and plastic to separate the dining from the hall and living room. Same thing when we did our bath.

No going to real extremes, because 1) No asbestos in this material, 2) No mold, 3) Just a whole lot of dust during demo, and even with masks, you still get some in through your nose.

Nailbags 05-26-2013 04:26 PM

and to back up gregzol it takes 20 plus years to get cancer from asbestos.

ToolSeeker 05-26-2013 07:29 PM

You want to know how harmful asb. is watch the T.V. commercials.Have you ever watched the lawyer ads, they say if you worked in a shipyard or auto parts mfg, and the other places where it was ground and sanded and the dust was continually in the and you were there 8 hrs a day 5 days a week for years.Never have you seen an ad that says if you put down 150sq ft of asbestos tile you might have a claim. And believe me if that were true the lawyers would be lining up.

gregzoll 05-26-2013 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ToolSeeker (Post 1188291)
You want to know how harmful asb. is watch the T.V. commercials.Have you ever watched the lawyer ads, they say if you worked in a shipyard or auto parts mfg, and the other places where it was ground and sanded and the dust was continually in the and you were there 8 hrs a day 5 days a week for years.Never have you seen an ad that says if you put down 150sq ft of asbestos tile you might have a claim. And believe me if that were true the lawyers would be lining up.

Do you also realize those tv ad's are called "Ambulance chaser" ads. Again, it takes a very long time, to have a person see the results of Asbestos on an XRay or MRI.

Maintenance 6 05-28-2013 09:53 AM

The stuff you are pulling down was known by different names. Most notably, "Rocklath" It was a gypsum based product, but then I have abated gypsum drywall that contained asbestos (160 apartments worth), so the only real way to know for sure is to test it. As far as needing 20 years to contract lung cancer from asbestos, that is unfounded and undocumented. The lawyer ads target mesothelioma, which is a specific type of cancer, slightly different than lung cancer, but 100% fatal and 100% linked to asbestos exposure. That makes it a cash cow for the ambulance chasers. Asbestos exposure is linked to mesothelioma, lung cancer and asbestosis. Of people who have been exposed and now have a health problem, it is typically with asbestosis, a thickening of the lung walls caused by scar tissue as the body tries to encapsulate the lodged asbestos fibers. Asbestos fibers can't be disolved, so the body controls them by encapsulation. The long term effects are shortness of breath and in extreme cases, death. The latency period for asbestos related diseases is normally 7 years and up. How much exposure is too much? God will let you know, because nobody on this board knows.


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