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Old 06-03-2013, 11:26 PM   #16
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Try to find one of those old wooden folding rulers carpenters used to carry. The kind with a sliding metal strip in one end.

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Old 06-03-2013, 11:29 PM   #18
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Ok, I'd appreciate that and your help so far. Any advice on what to use to assure the measurements are accurate?

Also, If we go by your theory of the joists shifting, in a nutshell what am I looking at?
Basically, jacking the walls back into proper vertical plane, and then figuring out a way to hold them there.... IF the joists are butting into the stairwell area from the other rooms. If the joists are running parallel with those walls, then we have a situation that gets a bit more complicated.
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Try to find one of those old wooden folding rulers carpenters used to carry. The kind with a sliding metal strip in one end.
I have a 4" aluminum ruler with an adjustable end that locks in at 90*
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Worst case......... Cut a piece of wood about three or four inches shorter than your wall-to-wall staircase measurement.

Then the differences you will measure will be the distances from the end of that piece of wood, butted up against one wall to the other wall. It will always be just a few inches... mark the wall there on both sides (ends of the stick) with that same corresponding measurement.
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I just got home from work and took a closer look. The drywall is cracked all the way on the right side and most of the way on the left. It stops where there is just the upper kitchen wall and no adjoining floor. Also there are nailpops below the crack on both sides and now finally, I'm going to bed

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I have a 4" aluminum ruler with an adjustable end that locks in at 90*
Just as a side note: With most PC's, you can type the " ° " symbol by ....

1. Turning on your <NUM LOCK>.
2. Holding down the <ALT> Key.
3. Typing 0176 on the keyboard pad to the right (not the numbers at the top)
4. Let go of the <ALT> Key, and a ° will appear.

EXAMPLE: 90°
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Before we get too far into this, you need to figure out a way to determine if your house is more like this one: "A"......
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Or is it more like this one: "B"?
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This is going to be a serious PROJECT for you. Not just a quick "weekend fix".

I really might suggest that you download SketchUp (it's free) from Google, and learn to use it a little. With it, you can examine close-up, and in detail, all these kinds of drawings, and also exchange renditions back and forth with people very easily.

Seriously, I believe no DIY should be without SketchUp.

BTW... I only spent about an hour on this, and I was just goofing around. Probably could have done it in 30 minutes. And I am not much more than an intermediate user of SketchUp.
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Willie, I'd say it is more like the second drawing. The areas where the drywall is split have an adjoining floor. On the left side for the first 3', towards the beginning of the stairs is the only spot with no separation and that's where the kitchen wall is - no adjoining floor.
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Willie, I'd say it is more like the second drawing. The areas where the drywall is split have an adjoining floor. On the left side for the first 3', towards the beginning of the stairs is the only spot with no separation and that's where the kitchen wall is - no adjoining floor.
The main thing you are trying to be certain of is not so much the room layout, but which way all the joists run that surround the stairwell. This is muy importante.
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I'm going to have to call in a pro to make that judgement. I'm out of my depth here.
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Well, you ARE going to have to feel comfortable and confident in doing something like this. I applaud your insight.

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