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davemarz 04-02-2013 09:52 PM

Do I need furring strips
 
I am refinishing my attic and I want to keep the ceilings as high as possible so I would rather not use furring strips if it can be avoided. The joist are nearly level and are 20 to 21 inches on center. Will that be close enough or will the drywall sag??

Also, while the joists are level relative to each other, there is one that is about 1/4 lower than the rest. Can I just use a power planer to level it off or is there something better??

Thanks

princelake 04-02-2013 10:14 PM

i would use 5/8" drywall or you can use 1/2" ultra light. its rated for up to 24" o.c
as for the being 1/4" out on the one joist you probably wont even notice it with the 5/8".
or put 1/4" plywood strips on the other joists to level it up.

MikeKy55 04-02-2013 11:31 PM

When I framed my basement I didn't get to the drywall until about 4 to 6 weeks later. Being a bit anal, I kept putting a 4 foot level across the studs before starting to hang drywall. One of the studs had bowed outward about 1/4". I did as you thought of and ran a power planer on that stud and brought it in plumb first. I used 1/2 inch drywall on the vertical walls and was afraid it would show.
Being a DIY'er myself, that's all I'm going to say on the topic.

garywade78 04-03-2013 05:54 AM

IMO, I would not hang drywall/blueboard directly to your rafters. Hang strapping its 3/4 of an inch thick. If you don't it will crack. Do it right the first time.

framer52 04-03-2013 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garywade78 (Post 1151395)
IMO, I would not hang drywall/blueboard directly to your rafters. Hang strapping its 3/4 of an inch thick. If you don't it will crack. Do it right the first time.



Those of us not living in NE do not use firring on ceiling joists and rarely have cracking problems you speak of.

princelake 04-03-2013 05:43 PM

i've never used furring strips unless it was needed to straighten things up. i've been in thousands of houses new and old and rarely i see furring strips. it is not the standard, atleast not around here. if its a large ceiling 1/4" really isnt that bad and that is why in most homes ceilings are painted flat. it hides lots of imperfections.

garywade78 04-03-2013 07:56 PM

The Holmes don't do it? You are kidding right? You must not watch the show. Everyone of there shows that they hang drywall or blueboard to ceilings they install strapping. It's stranded in the NE. Again it's my opinion.

Ray103 04-03-2013 09:56 PM

I hate to step into this war, but you guys have to ease off.

By the way, I WOULD like to know if and what the difference is between furring strips and strapping. I have no idea, and would like to be enlightened.

princelake 04-04-2013 07:12 AM

to me furring strips and strapping is basically the same thing. although when you walk into the hardware store you better say it correctly. if you say you want strapping your going to get a bunch of tooth pick twisted branch wood that as far as im concerned is useless. then if you ask for furring channel your going to get some nice straight light gauge steel for "strapping" a ceiling. and yes i agree there are a few on here that are above it all that dont have an open mind. im open to others ppls opinions and ideas because hey i might learn something. everyone has a different way of doing things in different parts of the world. but for furring strips on new framing it must be a NE thing cause its rarely done in my part of the world.

Nailbags 04-04-2013 08:36 AM

well some times you get that odd 2x and it is less then even with the rest so you have to fur it out. so the framing is equal.

ToolSeeker 04-04-2013 09:01 AM

Every place I have been and fortunately for me Ohio is as close to NE as I have been. Strapping for a ceiling was a piece of 1x that went from joist to joist and was basically a nailer strip, Furring was usually a 1x1 and was used to bring the sheet rock out. Like here in Fla. they are used on ext. walls that are cement block. It gives you a space for insulation and something to screw the rock to.
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BigJim 04-04-2013 09:56 AM

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BigJim 04-04-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray103 (Post 1151919)
I hate to step into this war, but you guys have to ease off.

By the way, I WOULD like to know if and what the difference is between furring strips and strapping. I have no idea, and would like to be enlightened.

Ray, different things in different parts of the world must be called by other names according to what I am seeing. All my career furring strips was referred to strips of wood ripped to a certain thickness to fur something out down or up. Strapping was steel straps to tie something together as in hurricane straps in a wall.

davemarz 04-04-2013 10:12 PM

Wow
 
I certainly didn't mean to start a fight here when I asked this question. Hopefully this next one won't restart things.

I think I'm going to pass on the furring strips since, as I mentioned, the ceilings are low and I am tall. However, when reading up on the lightweight drywall I have read some complaints that it is more brittle then normal drywall. Has anyone else run into this??

Thanks.

Nailbags 04-04-2013 10:31 PM

5/8 is what I would stick with


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